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#92
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From: 777 CA
Bottom line, it's better to have more pilots at the higher rate! CAL 767 pilots were getting paid the same rate as UAL 747 pilots pre-merger. The only ruffled feathers were some of the 74 guys (and some UAL 76 pilots who were making less than their CAL counterparts) who thought they should get paid more which, at the time, was unrealistic when compared to rates across the industry.
#94
Sverign is correct the company got away with paying us less. The 767-300 and 400 should be paid the same BUT less than the 787,777,350
#95
And basing ones argument by taking a snapshot of deflated (BK) wages and suggesting that pay was equal is lame. Compensation is composed of more than an hourly rate, especially one that was about to go up significantly as UA began stockpiling cash as we emerged.
I post this for the FNG's who might be tempted to swallow what he's selling. With negotiations on the horizon we need to be smart and stop selling ourselves short and accepting positions that aren't well thought out. Especially those that management just loves.
I post this for the FNG's who might be tempted to swallow what he's selling. With negotiations on the horizon we need to be smart and stop selling ourselves short and accepting positions that aren't well thought out. Especially those that management just loves.
#97
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From: 777 CA
Jay POS sold out the group by promising to take his little red wagon and go home if everyone didn’t agree to his banding in an attempt to game the SLI. A large number of pilots held their noses and voted yes just to stop the insanity.
Now every pilot is paying the price........
#98
You too Mr Weller. Looks like long call and turkey for me!
And slush.
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/k...-slush-2702879 Or similar. There are many others.
And slush.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/k...-slush-2702879 Or similar. There are many others.
#99
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Joined: Oct 2010
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More guys aren’t getting a higher rate. By banding the 767-400 with the 777,787,747,350 you prevented those pilots from getting higher pay. And guess what? We have ALOT more 777s and 787s and soon A350s than we do 767-400s.
Sverign is correct the company got away with paying us less. The 767-300 and 400 should be paid the same BUT less than the 787,777,350
Sverign is correct the company got away with paying us less. The 767-300 and 400 should be paid the same BUT less than the 787,777,350
CAL used to have three rates; narrow body, mid-body and wide body. The company wanted to pay the 767-400 the same as the mid-body but we negotiated including it at the wide-body rates. Hence more guys got paid at the higher rate. I don't understand why that is not considered a good thing? More pilots making a higher rate. I thought that was the purpose of the union!
I find it appalling that currently the 757 is paid the same as the 737, and the 767 is paid only slightly more than that. That's where the union should focus the effort, raising the 757 and 767-300 rates, not cutting the 767-400 rate.
In any event, it's all moot to me, I make the WB CA rate. But, I would like to see more pilots making the higher rate, not fewer!
And the notion that by paying the 767-400 pilots more, the other WB pilots got paid less is simply not borne out by the facts. Like it or not, Delta's first post bankruptcy contract set the bar, not the UAL negotiating committee!
#100
You too Mr Weller. Looks like long call and turkey for me!
And slush.
Bourbon Slush Recipe | Katie Lee | Food Network Or similar. There are many others.
And slush.

Bourbon Slush Recipe | Katie Lee | Food Network Or similar. There are many others.
Cheers!!
and Happy Thanksgiving
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