And now that we don't have a pending SLI to worry about what our fleet size looks like, we should pay the planes appropriately for what they really are, not 757s that pay the same as a 737 or 767-400 paying way more than a 767-300.

 

I heard the same from a check airman. Wonder if it was the same guy?

 

You can PM me and I will tell you who it was.

On another note...wondering if it is SOP for our LCA's to come out on the line and tell us all about "Kirby this - and Kirby that?" I don't care for our LCA's telling us that Kirby wants and needs scope relief. I feel that is management using (or misusing) their connection with the LCA's via their fleet update meetings and having some sort of unofficial expectation that they go out and spread the company word to create buy-in on the line.

That is management directly negotiating with the pilots in my opinion. It almost feels like some form of "indoctrination." Reminds me of flying with Abbot's minions in the legacy CAL training department and how they sold POS 02. Remember PJ in IAH. What a DB. They used the LCA's and Instructors to brainwash everyone that the sky was falling and negotiated directly to the pilots and sort of abrogated and bypassed the negotiating process. Of course, it didn't hurt that CAL also brain-washed our scab laden NC and the weak-links on the MEC.....But, that's another story.

Me thinks Kirby will continue to use the standards and LCA meetings for the purpose of spreading his "gospel."

 

The tougher schedule part of it is probably more about individual preference, seniority, and your domicile. As far as risks to mitigate, I'd disagree, but we could go back and forth forever on that.If you're LCAL like myself I'd agree. I think the majority of our LUAL brethren would probably see their history differently.

Aside from those two minor points, I basically agree with your post.

 

Check ride would end fairly abruptly If any LCA started that conversation on my pairing. That and a call to the Union Hall describing said LCA's very unprofessional behavior.

 

I think this above is so elegant and simple. A day is a day right?

Why is our vacation pay and training pay so darn low? It's wacked. I see guys commute in brief 2 hours, sim for 4 hours and by-gollie they end up putting in a 14 hour day after it's all said and done. Pay for that is crap.

 

We've had different experiences, then. I've never had a LCA sell me the company line (or maybe I wasn't paying attention). OTOH, ALPA-N representatives most definitely led the charge for C-02 and we unfortunately voted for it. The facts and opinions (every previous IACP president and MEC chair was against it) were all there in the open. Ultimately, the blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the pilots, including myself. I don't think we were lied to, just the industry turned around faster than expected. OTOH, the no snap back clause I knowingly voted for is my biggest regret. All water under the bridge at this point.

 

I definitely heard universal praise about Oscar’s and Scott’s amazing speeches at Standards meetings from multiple PI’s that I flew line trips over last 2 months. Totally agree with koolaid TK front.

 

Agree 100%

 

They (mgt) obviously see value in it, as it is quite spendy to send the executive team out on these errands. That they are eager and willing willing to spend the money and time to spread their gospel tells me more about their real intentions than what they actually have to say.