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Old 12-13-2017 | 04:58 AM
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Has said manager been fired? The damage being done has got to be in the tens of millions of dollars.
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Old 12-13-2017 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Has said manager been fired? The damage being done has got to be in the tens of millions of dollars.
Nope, nothing said about that manager being fired.
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Old 12-13-2017 | 01:01 PM
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all,
there seems to be rumors(hard to believe on this or any forum) about all the problems in the training center. here is a list for you all with an explanation.

1. FOX- As I have posted before this is a computer scheduling program that was instituted by the company about two months ago. It puts into place all training whether its CQMV/CQLOE, transitions,requals and really any type of training that is scheduled in the simulator. In addition, the I/E's are all scheduled under this software. Grading in the simulators is done under this software. Combine this with planners and schedulers who did not move back to Denver to help administer this program, well there are many shortcomings to work out. So a host of new people who inherited this beautiful program are working tirelessly behind the scenes to try and put the pieces back together.
2. Grievances. There was a grievance accepted on fly days. Because of it many instructors are out flying(contractually correct) This has caused upwards of 40 cancellations in the 737 fleet for CQMV/CQLOE.
3. Commuting instructors. A fair amount of instructors live out of Denver because of the consolidation of 2 training centers. Many desire not to pick up overtime. (various factors involved and not their fault in the least) I would argue because of #1,#2 and other factors involved, the snowball is getting bigger and the backlog continues to climb.

--There's an argument for a staffing issue but really the problems above are at the heart of the issues. Training back logs and problems are centered in only a couple of fleets. Although I think every fleet is affected by the scheduling problems of I/E's.

This is all first hand knowledge above. I'm not spreading rumors. Now as I understand some of the ramifications are.
Unconfirmed Rumor:
1. New hire classes cancelled or will be cancelled. My personal opinion is it will until they can unstick this problem. Case in point:
2. New Hire class that just started was suppose to have 65 people and it only has 9(not a rumor, this is true) spoke with someone on PBS who allocated 4 instructors to work with class of 65 on bidding. Class is now at nine. The lovely trickle down effect.

I don't believe I typed anything malicious or pointed a finger. Just the facts and rumors where they are rumors. Happy Holidays everyone.
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Old 12-13-2017 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Otters
all,
there seems to be rumors(hard to believe on this or any forum) about all the problems in the training center. here is a list for you all with an explanation.

1. FOX- As I have posted before this is a computer scheduling program that was instituted by the company about two months ago. It puts into place all training whether its CQMV/CQLOE, transitions,requals and really any type of training that is scheduled in the simulator. In addition, the I/E's are all scheduled under this software. Grading in the simulators is done under this software. Combine this with planners and schedulers who did not move back to Denver to help administer this program, well there are many shortcomings to work out. So a host of new people who inherited this beautiful program are working tirelessly behind the scenes to try and put the pieces back together.
2. Grievances. There was a grievance accepted on fly days. Because of it many instructors are out flying(contractually correct) This has caused upwards of 40 cancellations in the 737 fleet for CQMV/CQLOE.
3. Commuting instructors. A fair amount of instructors live out of Denver because of the consolidation of 2 training centers. Many desire not to pick up overtime. (various factors involved and not their fault in the least) I would argue because of #1,#2 and other factors involved, the snowball is getting bigger and the backlog continues to climb.

--There's an argument for a staffing issue but really the problems above are at the heart of the issues. Training back logs and problems are centered in only a couple of fleets. Although I think every fleet is affected by the scheduling problems of I/E's.

This is all first hand knowledge above. I'm not spreading rumors. Now as I understand some of the ramifications are.
Unconfirmed Rumor:
1. New hire classes cancelled or will be cancelled. My personal opinion is it will until they can unstick this problem. Case in point:
2. New Hire class that just started was suppose to have 65 people and it only has 9(not a rumor, this is true) spoke with someone on PBS who allocated 4 instructors to work with class of 65 on bidding. Class is now at nine. The lovely trickle down effect.

I don't believe I typed anything malicious or pointed a finger. Just the facts and rumors where they are rumors. Happy Holidays everyone.
Thank you Otter for the explanation.

I hope they get this fixed quick and get the new hires flowing, other wise this summer is going to be a disaster. A summer full of cancellations will kill us with social media.......
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Old 12-13-2017 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
Thank you Otter for the explanation.

I hope they get this fixed quick and get the new hires flowing, other wise this summer is going to be a disaster. A summer full of cancellations will kill us with social media.......
No it won’t.

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Old 12-13-2017 | 02:03 PM
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A friend of mine is in class right now and said the number being thrown around is 400 new hires for 2018.
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Old 12-13-2017 | 02:09 PM
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Otters, thanks for the explanation. Is there any rumor of replacements for the commuting instructors? Or were they all hired during the last announcement?
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Old 12-13-2017 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
No it won’t.

Dr. Dinky Dao? Who’s he?
I thought it was dead, too. But four days ago, I heard first-class customers discuss him while waiting to board.....

(They couldn’t remember his name, though).
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Old 12-13-2017 | 02:40 PM
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Not sure about all the guessing here. . .


Joe,

The implementation of the new scheduling system at TK has no bearing on vacancy levels.

Regarding EWR 756 CAP, I do not expect any vacancies in the next couple of months. But we are not overstaffed there, so I would expect vacancies sometime in 2018.

Hope that helps,

Paul

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Hi Paul,

Joe Peck, EWR777FO, here. You were kind enough to respond to a question I had earlier this year so I thought I'd try again. Do you have any further insight as to when the next round of EWR756 CAP positions might become available? The rumor on the line is that TK is suffering extensive scheduling problems due to new technology that was deployed and so vacancies overall are slightly stalled. Is there any truth behind those rumors?

Thanks as always for the hard work you do and trying to keep the pilots as up to date as possible.

Joe Peck

Paul, would be Paul Carlson, head of manpower.
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Old 12-13-2017 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
I thought it was dead, too. But four days ago, I heard first-class customers discuss him while waiting to board.....

(They couldn’t remember his name, though).
Right.

But the MAJORITY of people have forgotten about it. If you asked most people in general, they proably wouldn’t remeber that it was associated with us.

Not long ago it was released that Chicago Law enforcement was being held accountable/disciplined or whatever. Think anyone cared let alone paid much attention to the blurb?

Originally Posted by Fresh
A friend of mine is in class right now and said the number being thrown around is 400 new hires for 2018.
Typical, since BK said about DOUBLE that number for 2018 not long ago. I don’t belive that “400” will cover retirements yet.

This year didn’t even break 300 new hires I belive.

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