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Winston 12-11-2017 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 2481700)
But those who may not know the priorities listed in the FOM are:

Safe, comfortable, efficient, on time. In that order.

Might want to check that order. I was taught the “Skoh-wee” mnemonic, as in S.C.O.E.

SurfnFlyer 12-11-2017 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 2481700)
Not directed at you svergin.

But those who may not know the priorities listed in the FOM are:

Safe, comfortable, efficient, on time. In that order.

Lol, they’re actually not in that order. You must be late flying around everywhere at cost index 0. :D

Grumble 12-11-2017 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by SurfnFlyer (Post 2481879)
Lol, they’re actually not in that order. You must be late flying around everywhere at cost index 0. :D

That's funny right there.

crflyer 12-11-2017 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by rightside02 (Post 2481692)
Should be mandatory in the 737 from Jan 1st to Dec 30th. When I am in row 465 in that pig , we are dying back there the moment those engines are shut down. People complaining next to me within minutes .

What’s special about Dec 31st?

full of luv 12-12-2017 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by crflyer (Post 2481953)
What’s special about Dec 31st?

Company gets a special break that day to put all the DH pilots in center seats for free.

Regularguy 12-12-2017 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2481678)
This was strictly enforced at CAL. Guys are still paranoid they are going to get in trouble if they run the APU.

You might inform us how lCAL enforced this.

Here’s another spin on this SOP; the 737 goes to smaller stations with less qualified staff. To either shutdown or start the APU requires special cockpit training which adds some issues, the biggest is cost and right behind that is security.

It’s cheaper (as in manpower) to give all the airplane shut down duties to a pilot rather than train someone locally to do it.

Zenofzin 12-12-2017 05:49 AM

That was never ever enforced at LCAL, we were ALWAYS told to put passenger comfort ahead. They had a big push to reduce APU usage as we leased the APU per hour, every minute was around .99c cost. It was clearly stated over and over to reduce usage when practical but always always always put pass comfort ahead. Some guys, and a real minority could not get that in their heads and would shut it down. I recently deadheaded to Panama City and the Captain left us all roasting, the whole crew shares the van so he had to wait for us on the other side anyway, surprise he was a SCAB, I think that's the root of it, those guys don't consider anyone but themselves in any aspect of their lives. But CAL management never in any way encouraged that or would say a word to a pilot for APU usage.

Zenofzin 12-12-2017 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by Regularguy (Post 2482017)
You might inform us how lCAL enforced this.

Here’s another spin on this SOP; the 737 goes to smaller stations with less qualified staff. To either shutdown or start the APU requires special cockpit training which adds some issues, the biggest is cost and right behind that is security.

It’s cheaper (as in manpower) to give all the airplane shut down duties to a pilot rather than train someone locally to do it.

Good point, my thought on that is if I'm making over 300k a year I can hang out for an extra 15 minutes to give the people that pay my check a good experience (unless of course I have a tight commute :)). I know some on here will disagree and bolt as soon as the engine is shut down, but if you want to get paid top dollar, act like you deserve it....

Grumble 12-12-2017 08:14 AM

Terminate guppy, cockpit go dark with battery off, cabin on GS BUS. Walk off airplane.

Why’s this hard?

757Driver 12-12-2017 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2482113)
Terminate guppy, cockpit go dark with battery off, cabin on GS BUS. Walk off airplane.

Why’s this hard?

You don't have to do the GS bus button on the F/A panel anymore. Was a holdover from the non-NG aircraft.

As a PS, I never terminate an aircraft at a maintenance station.


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