flynd94

[QUOTE=horrido27;3532699]Just to throw it out there- but..
those 75 replacement 321’s aren’t coming next year. Last word I’ve heard is they are pushed back towards late ‘24.
Hopefully at the next investor conference someone from our leadership gets that question “when are the A321’s coming and are they a direct B757 replacement”?
I still believe that by 2024 we will see an Airbus base at BOS..

Many think that when the company announces the new base(s), they have to happen simultaneously, immediately.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they announced a few with another in the waiting room.. and one opening in the new year, the next one a few months later.

Guess we’ll know soon.

Till then, all we can do is deal with our current bases, contract and fleet!

Always
Motch

ps) just to add..
https://onemileatatime.com/news/united-a321xlr-polaris-premium-plus/[/QUOTE]


the latest fleet newsletter has the 321NEO’s showing up 3/23 and online by the summer. Yes the 321XLR’s have pushed back 6 months or so.

Lumberg823

LCA meeting last month had the 320 NEO date pushed to June of 23, that is being put out at TK as well by the instructors. The XLR's are still being flight tested and certified over in Europe so 24/25 is a guesstimate assuming all goes well with certifying it, but supposedly the extra fuel in the cargo hold is causing concern about a fire hazard in a belly up landing so who knows...

GPullR

321 showing up end of June / beginning of July. Then a few months of proving runs. So maybe October for revenue. 321 Neo is not 757 direct replacement, the xlr is except a lot slower and can't climb as high.

C11DCA

define a lot slower? .78 vs .80? We do get paid by the minute right?

The benefit to that slowness (actual airspeed as well as less optimum tracks/altitudes to stay out of the way) is getting rid of the unaugmented Europe flying the 757 does in many cases. So with an all aisle access Polaris rest seat, the 321XLR flying will be better then current 757 international flying in terms of pilot comfort and safety.

GPullR

Um, obviously you haven't flown the 757. .86 mmo and will do it happily. Will you make it back from eastern Europe, nope. Flew it 10 years across the Atlantic and .80-.82 was the norm .Point is performance wise they aren't in same class.

piloteich10

Just wondering how long training is and wanted to confirm it’s location for UAL. Thanks!

JetDoc

Two weeks for indoc and about a month for fleet training, give or take a day or two.
All of United's pilot training takes place in Denver.

C11DCA

The 4000 hours of 767 in my logbook would say otherwise. I never flew the 757 over the Atlantic, didn’t have to as we flew the 767’s there. But I flew it domestically and to Hawaii. And yes .80-.82 was the norm, just as .78-.79 is the norm for the 320’s (it can do .81-just that it is a game of chicken with the barber pole)

I agree the 757 and the 320 don't have the same performance. Just depends on what you want to measure. The 757 does some things better then a 321 (runway and climb performance, speed), and the 321XLR will do some things better then a 757 (like range and fuel burn/ maintenance costs).

The 321 should carry a similar number of passengers, with a much better First Class, therefore crew rest, experience. United has said the XLR will have aisle access for every lie flat seat. Again, if flying slower, then augmentation is more likely. And we get paid by the minute right?

SAS is flying the 321LR currently between CPH and IAD. Great circle distance of 3540NM. Blocked at 9:30 hours. The XLR will have more range so here comes 10-11 hour flights. And before you go “oh hell no, not that far in a narrowbody!!!”, what do you think was flying before widebodies existed? 707’s and DC8’s (UAL flew them BWI-HNL) and Dc7’s and Connies (holds the record for longest duration nonstop passenger flight-piston powered. A TWA Connie flight in 1957 from London to San Francisco was aloft for 23 hours 19 minutes! 5350 miles)

https://onemileatatime.com/news/sas-airbus-a321lr/Anyways, the 757 is/was a great aircraft. Just that its time has come to join the history books like other aircraft before it.

GPullR

That's like saying they used to fly props across the Atlantic, let's go back to that. 10 hours on a narrow body is horrible.
All I said from the beginning was performance wise not in the same class. Economically I get it. From your post seems like you flew the Pratt version of 757, POS compared to the RR.

scns77

[QUOTE=GPullR;3536592]That's like saying they used to fly props across the Atlantic, let's go back to that. 10 hours on a narrow body is horrible.

"used to"?? Ha! I just did it in Feb and May.