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AFSOCFlyr 08-15-2018 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by JetDoc (Post 2654297)
Must have added it around the 1st of August. I last updated my app the end of July and it was not there at that time.

Thanks.

On a separate note, has anyone had any experience with Aero Crew's prep services? I hadn't heard of them until this fair came about.

Bizkit 08-17-2018 01:53 PM

I have an invite and plan on going. However, I just got the Hogan invite from United. I’m wondering if the job fair is needed at this point. Any thoughts?


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Aquaticus 08-17-2018 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Bizkit (Post 2657122)
I have an invite and plan on going. However, I just got the Hogan invite from United. I’m wondering if the job fair is needed at this point. Any thoughts?


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That is a tough one. On one hand this could be a dry run, practice interview with the same people who do the interviews and on the other hand I would want to concentrate on pulling out all the kinks for the real deal with people who will nitpick like Emerald Coast and Cage. If you have done the job fair game before I would pass on this and work on tightening everything else up. If you haven't gone to any of these it might be good to get one in and it could help you answer the "Why United?" question by using some of the info that they broadcast at these events. Good luck!

SilverLake 08-17-2018 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Bizkit (Post 2657122)
I have an invite and plan on going. However, I just got the Hogan invite from United. I’m wondering if the job fair is needed at this point. Any thoughts?


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If you have a Hogan invite, the job fair isn’t needed. Take the hogan, and pass it, and you’ll get invited to the interview. Take the hogan and don’t pass, and go to job fair, they’ll tell you that you still have to wait a year to be eligible for consideration. So makes no sense in going to job fair since you have an invite. Congrats and good luck.

Squallrider 08-17-2018 03:01 PM

So I have a question and I’m planning on erring on the side of caution on this but curious what others think (I’m going to ask a recruiter at the event)

As a DLCA I administered the captain check outs at my regional taking the place of the FAA, would that allow a tick in the box of FAA examiner or designated program examiner ? I’m thinking it doesn’t add any more points than being a regular check airman but I’m curious

Terrain Inop 08-17-2018 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2657158)
So I have a question and I’m planning on erring on the side of caution on this but curious what others think (I’m going to ask a recruiter at the event)

As a DLCA I administered the captain check outs at my regional taking the place of the FAA, would that allow a tick in the box of FAA examiner or designated program examiner ? I’m thinking it doesn’t add any more points than being a regular check airman but I’m curious

No, unless you held a DPE COA, or were an APD under your carrier's 121 authority I would not check that box.

Winston 08-18-2018 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2657158)
As a DLCA I administered the captain check outs at my regional taking the place of the FAA, would that allow a tick in the box of FAA examiner or designated program examiner ? I’m thinking it doesn’t add any more points than being a regular check airman but I’m curious


Originally Posted by Terrain Inop (Post 2657171)
No, unless you held a DPE COA, or were an APD under your carrier's 121 authority I would not check that box.

This is correct. You are a DLCA (which, as you know, is just an LCA who can perform the initial captain upgrade line check and give two-year line checks to other LCAs), not either of the other two things. There is a difference. Don’t check the box.

TripleSpool 08-19-2018 09:20 AM

United Pilot Expo
 
Got email from United Pilot Recruitment asking me to RSVP to an email I had never received. I looked all over my spam folder and nothing. Thankfully, aero crew solutions was nice enough to resend the invite. To say that I am happy, is an understatement.

A friend of mine at United told me that this is a 'very big deal', an event that could undoubtedly lead to a job if you play your cards right. I'm curious if the event itself counts as part of an interview, should you get one. For instance, if the job fair goes well and you get the 'real' invite would you still be subject to a full interview considering the HR portion is, to some extent, complete? There has to be a reason for us to have gotten the pre-interview interview, if you will, rather than a direct invite. Perhaps one of the earlier posts was right in that HR may be trying to reduce costs by filtering the top candidates they wish to interview at their own expense. Either way, worth every penny.

I look forward to meeting all of you there.

Fourpaw 08-19-2018 12:19 PM

Is there an acceptable tolerance between logbook and airline apps flight time wise during the logbook review portion of the interview?

I just ask because I'm cleaning up my logbooks and noticing small amounts of time off in most categories...IE ASEL, AMEL, Turbine, PIC,etc.

It isn't a lot but the numbers are definitely not exact. I think the highest amount might be 50 hours off.

I've gone through my logbooks 10x over trying to recover the times but am about the pull my hair out trying to figure this out. :confused:

FBO Bum 08-19-2018 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by Fourpaw (Post 2658026)
Is there an acceptable tolerance between logbook and airline apps flight time wise during the logbook review portion of the interview?



I just ask because I'm cleaning up my logbooks and noticing small amounts of time off in most categories...IE ASEL, AMEL, Turbine, PIC,etc.



It isn't a lot but the numbers are definitely not exact. I think the highest amount might be 50 hours off.



I've gone through my logbooks 10x over trying to recover the times but am about the pull my hair out trying to figure this out. :confused:



I had a similar issue 3 years ago. My suggestion is:

1. Get LogTen Pro (or your choose of electronic logbook)
2. Transfer your flight times to LTPro (start now, it takes time)
3. In LTPro go to “Print report for AirlineApps”
4. Transfer all the times to the AirlineApps site.
5. Done!

I did this for my current UAL app and all times match perfectly.

Good luck! :-)


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Half wing 08-19-2018 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by Fourpaw (Post 2658026)
Is there an acceptable tolerance between logbook and airline apps flight time wise during the logbook review portion of the interview?

I just ask because I'm cleaning up my logbooks and noticing small amounts of time off in most categories...IE ASEL, AMEL, Turbine, PIC,etc.

It isn't a lot but the numbers are definitely not exact. I think the highest amount might be 50 hours off.

I've gone through my logbooks 10x over trying to recover the times but am about the pull my hair out trying to figure this out. :confused:


Put an addendum at the end of your logbook to correct your errors. I would have 0 uncorrected errors if you really want the job.

rightside02 08-20-2018 04:23 AM

Sent you a pM

TripleSpool 08-20-2018 05:54 AM

Looking forward to the event. Got the invite but it ended up in my spam folder. Thankfully, United emailed me and requested an RSVP, much to my surprise. See you guys there;-)

AeroCrewSolut 08-23-2018 06:31 PM

Second round of invites will go out on Friday.

Squallrider 08-24-2018 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by AeroCrewSolut (Post 2661078)
Second round of invites will go out on Friday.

Any significance being in the first round over being in the second?

AeroCrewSolut 08-24-2018 03:46 AM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2661177)
Any significance being in the first round over being in the second?

No. Additional pilots were invited due to cancellations, deployments, etc.

Trucker23 08-24-2018 04:01 AM

Good luck to everyone on the second round. I know I have my fingers crossed!!

BobbyLeeSwagger 08-24-2018 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2661177)
Any significance being in the first round over being in the second?

My guess is that they were able to see who isn't going and invite more, but you're asking the right person, which isn't me lol

Squallrider 08-24-2018 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by AeroCrewSolut (Post 2661191)
No. Additional pilots were invited due to cancellations, deployments, etc.

Has there been I many indication of how likely it is you’ll get a interview following the event? I’m happily going and maybe a little eager ha

AeroCrewSolut 08-24-2018 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2661469)
Has there been I many indication of how likely it is you’ll get a interview following the event? I’m happily going and maybe a little eager ha

If you are attending the event then United likes what they see on the application. They are confirming in Denver that you will be a great fit for the United team. As to the chances of getting an interview, I honestly don't know. I do know that you have to come prepared. Know who you are and why you want to work for United.

If anybody else has a question, post it here or PM me. Good luck.

AeroCrewSolut 08-24-2018 12:30 PM

Second round of email invites just went out.

SUX4U 08-24-2018 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by AeroCrewSolut (Post 2661480)
If you are attending the event then United likes what they see on the application. They are confirming in Denver that you will be a great fit for the United team.

Soooooo isn’t that what interviews are for? They like what they see on paper so invite them out to confirm the applicants fit?

Hopefully for United’s sake Delta, Southwest or FEDEX doesn’t call while we waste everyone’s time pre-interviewing the top applicants.

TheBridgeKeeper 08-24-2018 02:05 PM

I'm left wondering if it has a negative impact if you are unable to attend. Just my luck, it is viewed as not being "totally committed", otherwise you would make it no matter what. Hopefully that is not the case.

TripleSpool 08-24-2018 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by TheBridgeKeeper (Post 2661546)
I'm left wondering if it has a negative impact if you are unable to attend. Just my luck, it is viewed as not being "totally committed", otherwise you would make it no matter what. Hopefully that is not the case.

Aside from deployment, I'd say probably yes.

TripleSpool 08-24-2018 02:53 PM

Would this pre-intreview count as partial credit for the real deal?

Is anyone actually bringing their logbooks or just the resume

FlewNavy 08-24-2018 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by TripleSpool (Post 2661570)
Would this pre-intreview count as partial credit for the real deal?

Is anyone actually bringing their logbooks or just the resume

Don't bring anything they haven't asked to see. If its like the last UAL hosted event in 2016, all you will get is 2-3 minutes for your elevator speech in a group setting.

Its likely that you are going to be in small groups and the recruiter will end up ranking you somehow relative to who is in your group. I don't suspect that you will get much if any 1v1 time with a recruiter away from your group.

Have some extra resumes on hand to give to people that you meet at dinner or in the parking lot etc. You never know if you will be talking with a person that just happens to be able to network you into your next job.

TripleSpool 08-24-2018 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 2661658)
Don't bring anything they haven't asked to see. If its like the last UAL hosted event in 2016, all you will get is 2-3 minutes for your elevator speech in a group setting.

Its likely that you are going to be in small groups and the recruiter will end up ranking you somehow relative to who is in your group. I don't suspect that you will get much if any 1v1 time with a recruiter away from your group.

Have some extra resumes on hand to give to people that you meet at dinner or in the parking lot etc. You never know if you will be talking with a person that just happens to be able to network you into your next job.

Thanks for the info. The 'ticket' I have shows 15 minutes of designated time which I perceived at first to be a 1-on-1 but you suggest it'll be in a group setting. Interesting. Not what I had in mind.

FlewNavy 08-24-2018 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by TripleSpool (Post 2661662)
Thanks for the info. The 'ticket' I have shows 15 minutes of designated time which I perceived at first to be a 1-on-1 but you suggest it'll be in a group setting. Interesting. Not what I had in mind.

In 2016 it was groups but this could be different but the results are the same. 15 minutes is enough time for pleasantries, tell me about yourself and Why United along with 2-3 questions from you.

Be engaging, positive and genuine. If given advice on how to improve your resume...accept it with enthusiasm.

TripleSpool 08-24-2018 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 2661664)
In 2016 it was groups but this could be different but the results are the same. 15 minutes is enough time for pleasantries, tell me about yourself and Why United along with 2-3 questions from you.

Be engaging, positive and genuine. If given advice on how to improve your resume...accept it with enthusiasm.

I appreciate it.

I'm really looking forward to the event:D

AeroCrewSolut 08-24-2018 06:45 PM

For the event in Denver:

You will have 10-15 minutes one-on-one with a recruiter (pilot or HR). There will not be any group interviews.

Please bring an updated copy of your resume. You can bring additional resumes if you wish.

The dress code is business formal, not business casual.

Dashbro 08-24-2018 07:31 PM

Can we get some stats on who got invites on the second round? I just want to know when your average Joe captain may get a chance.

TripleSpool 08-24-2018 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by AeroCrewSolut (Post 2661680)
For the event in Denver:

You will have 10-15 minutes one-on-one with a recruiter (pilot or HR). There will not be any group interviews.

Please bring an updated copy of your resume. You can bring additional resumes if you wish.

The dress code is business formal, not business casual.

Thank you for the clarification.

f10a 08-24-2018 09:25 PM

Business formal? What an outdated fashion in today's society. Wall Street doesn't even play dress up these days. 🤦*♂️

Squallrider 08-25-2018 01:51 AM


Originally Posted by TheBridgeKeeper (Post 2661546)
I'm left wondering if it has a negative impact if you are unable to attend. Just my luck, it is viewed as not being "totally committed", otherwise you would make it no matter what. Hopefully that is not the case.

I’m going to go with you’re fine. They know people have commitments such as work and family and if you can’t make it then that’s understandable. They want someone I’m sure that would not call in to come

ItnStln 08-25-2018 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by f10a (Post 2661724)
Business formal? What an outdated fashion in today's society. Wall Street doesn't even play dress up these days. 🤦*♂️

I went to orientation for grad school where the dress code was business casual and there were people wearing anything from jeans and a t-shirt to a suit. I’m wondering what people will wear for business professional.

Squallrider 08-25-2018 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by ItnStln (Post 2661773)
I went to orientation for grad school where the dress code was business casual and there were people wearing anything from jeans and a t-shirt to a suit. I’m wondering what people will wear for business professional.

Suit, shiny shoes and a monocle

Triumph 08-25-2018 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by ItnStln (Post 2661773)
I went to orientation for grad school where the dress code was business casual and there were people wearing anything from jeans and a t-shirt to a suit. I’m wondering what people will wear for business professional.



I don’t think the accepted tolerances we venture too far outside of a suit and tie. Just a guess though.


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ItnStln 08-25-2018 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2661806)
Suit, shiny shoes and a monocle

You can’t forget the monocle!

ItnStln 08-25-2018 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Triumph (Post 2661820)
I don’t think the accepted tolerances we venture too far outside of a suit and tie. Just a guess though.


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I don’t interview in anything but a suit so that makes sense.

TripleSpool 08-25-2018 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by ItnStln (Post 2661864)
I don’t interview in anything but a suit so that makes sense.

Of course. No matter how you slice it this is an interview. It amazes me that some would treat this as anything else but that..


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