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Winston 09-21-2018 03:30 PM

Pro tip: Pre-write generic handwritten thank you notes on good stationary ahead of time. Get the exact names (and titles) of everyone you interact with and put their names on envelopes after. Ask the secretary or whoever is your point of contact that day to deliver them on your way out of the building (don’t forget to address one to him/her also).

That was the gouge I got a few years ago and it seemed to work pretty well.

drywhitetoast 09-21-2018 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by Winston (Post 2678711)
Pro tip: Pre-write generic handwritten thank you notes on good stationary ahead of time. Get the exact names (and titles) of everyone you interact with and put their names on envelopes after. Ask the secretary or whoever is your point of contact that day to deliver them on your way out of the building (don’t forget to address one to him/her also).

That was the gouge I got a few years ago and it seemed to work pretty well.

No. Don't do that. I interviewed in January of this year and were explicitly told not to do that from the people in HR.

FBO Bum 09-21-2018 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Winston (Post 2678711)
Pro tip: Pre-write generic handwritten thank you notes on good stationary ahead of time. Get the exact names (and titles) of everyone you interact with and put their names on envelopes after. Ask the secretary or whoever is your point of contact that day to deliver them on your way out of the building (don’t forget to address one to him/her also).

That was the gouge I got a few years ago and it seemed to work pretty well.



Do not do this! United was very specific about it. Email is the way to go.


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v1valarob 09-21-2018 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by Winston (Post 2678711)
Pro tip: Pre-write generic handwritten thank you notes on good stationary ahead of time. Get the exact names (and titles) of everyone you interact with and put their names on envelopes after. Ask the secretary or whoever is your point of contact that day to deliver them on your way out of the building (don’t forget to address one to him/her also).

That was the gouge I got a few years ago and it seemed to work pretty well.

Had a bud do this. He said the interview went very well. But didn’t get the job. He said he didn’t want to, but was told to by an interview consulting company.

Winston 09-21-2018 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by v1valarob (Post 2678741)
Had a bud do this. He said the interview went very well. But didn’t get the job. He said he didn’t want to, but was told to by an interview consulting company.

So you think he didn’t get the job because he wrote thank you notes?

Airway 09-21-2018 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by Winston (Post 2678823)
So you think he didn’t get the job because he wrote thank you notes?

I doubt it but I don't think it's appropriate to give a secretary a homework assignment on your way out.

SUX4U 09-22-2018 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by FBO Bum (Post 2678738)
Do not do this! United was very specific about it. Email is the way to go.


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I’m glad to hear they put an end to the card writing. Just as silly as needing to wear a red tie for a Delta interview.

TheBridgeKeeper 09-22-2018 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by SUX4U (Post 2678924)
I’m glad to hear they put an end to the card writing. Just as silly as needing to wear a red tie for a Delta interview.



Wait, what? I wore a red tie to the United interview. Was that wrong? ;)


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JoePatroni 09-22-2018 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by TheBridgeKeeper (Post 2678931)
Wait, what? I wore a red tie to the United interview. Was that wrong? ;)


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You probably should have worn a shirt under it but whatever works. 😄

FBO Bum 09-22-2018 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by TheBridgeKeeper (Post 2678931)
Wait, what? I wore a red tie to the United interview. Was that wrong? ;)


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Yeah, I saw a few people with red ties. There was a guy with a plaid suit! I’m curious to see how it went for that guy.


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SUX4U 09-22-2018 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 2678933)
You probably should have worn a shirt under it but whatever works. 😄

A sweat stained wife beater counts, right?!?

JoePatroni 09-22-2018 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by SUX4U (Post 2678953)
A sweat stained wife beater counts, right?!?

It’s 2018, for all I know that’s all the rage.

v1valarob 09-22-2018 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by FBO Bum (Post 2678944)
Yeah, I saw a few people with red ties. There was a guy with a plaid suit! I’m curious to see how it went for that guy.


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I honestly didnt feel that vibe. As long as you wore a suit, and were well groomed, you were fine.

Now for the actual interview...

cal73 09-22-2018 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by FBO Bum (Post 2678944)
Yeah, I saw a few people with red ties. There was a guy with a plaid suit! I’m curious to see how it went for that guy.


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Lol.
You know he got it...Game Changer and everything.

Ni hao 09-22-2018 09:12 AM

1 guy wore a red tie the day 4 of us interviewed. He was the one NOT to get hired. :eek:

Aquaticus 09-22-2018 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by TheBridgeKeeper (Post 2678466)
I asked one of the pilots there why the event was taking place at all. If it was the natural progression from app review, to job fair meet and greet, then hogan, then interview, it makes sense. But since they are sending applicants direct to the Hogan then interview, why the extra hoop for us? If every applicant had to go through this, then it makes sense. But they do not. I didn't get a real answer. It was still awesome and I'm glad I got to go.

I think their reasoning is two fold. They want you to pick them because you want to be a United pilot. How is someone from the outside looking in supposed to know what the culture is like without seeing it. Even being told from someone on the inside isn't really enough. Working at a United Express airline for a decade doesn't even do it justice. Second is the fact that there are some people out there with great resumes but zero interpersonal skills that they need to weed out.

The United culture is a moving target and we are about to replace half of our pilots within the next 10 years so they care about who they reshape the culture with. They want people to understand the airline and to protect what we have here. We don't care what color your tie is or how much of a nerd you are as long as you can shine yourself up and be friendly for a few hours... which is the majority of our job.

This isn't Delta and if you ever get the chance to interview at another airline or have in the past you will see an immediate difference in their culture. We have the most women as a % of our pilot group of any airline. Almost double that of Delta and American. The good ol boy club died a lot longer ago here. We have more widebodies covering more of the planet than our domestic competition. Our union is very much involved with almost every aspect of our company. It also has a history book worth of contentious issues from the past. I think it will make us stronger with future market turmoil and stopping our board and management from making short term gains at the expense of long term profitability (scope.)

If you are qualified and capable they really do want you and they want you to feel like you have some sense of us before you decide. Good luck!

FBO Bum 09-22-2018 07:33 PM

Aquaticus,

Thank you for taking the time to write this. We certainly appreciate it. As one of the fortunate pilots invited, I can say that the event was a great opportunity for us to confirm what we already knew, United’s culture is one of the things that, in my opinion, sets them apart from all other airlines. I am definitely looking forward to the opportunity to join the United team soon.


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awakenedpilot 09-23-2018 02:04 AM


Originally Posted by FBO Bum (Post 2679322)
Aquaticus,

Thank you for taking the time to write this. We certainly appreciate it. As one of the fortunate pilots invited, I can say that the event was a great opportunity for us to confirm what we already knew, United’s culture is one of the things that, in my opinion, sets them apart from all other airlines. I am definitely looking forward to the opportunity to join the United team soon.


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This right here. Thanks Aquaticus as well. The event was well worth it and sealed the deal for where I want to be.


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SUX4U 09-23-2018 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by awakenedpilot (Post 2679398)
This right here. Thanks Aquaticus as well. The event was well worth it and sealed the deal for where I want to be.


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Good luck to you guys. That’s a great feeling you have right now. Hopefully they get you the Hogan soon to keep the momentum rolling.

F15andMD11 09-23-2018 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by drywhitetoast (Post 2678729)
No. Don't do that. I interviewed in January of this year and were explicitly told not to do that from the people in HR.

I agree! When I interviewed back in 2013 I saw a fairly large stack of what were clearly thank you cards on Gloria’s desk, unopened. I wondered if they we ever opened?

FBO Bum 09-23-2018 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by F15andMD11 (Post 2679621)
I agree! When I interviewed back in 2013 I saw a fairly large stack of what were clearly thank you cards on Gloria’s desk, unopened. I wondered if they we ever opened?



The reason that I got for not to do it was because United is trying to lower their environmental footprint and ask you can imagine, all the thank you cards that they would get from all the individuals interviewing for the position would add up to quite a bit. I’m not sure as to the validity of that claim, but that’s what Cage Consultings told me


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Winston 09-23-2018 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by FBO Bum (Post 2679678)
The reason that I got for not to do it was because United is trying to lower their environmental footprint and ask you can imagine, all the thank you cards that they would get from all the individuals interviewing for the position would add up to quite a bit.

So you’re telling me that a company that burned 3.3 BILLION gallons of JET-A in 2017 (https://www.transtats.bts.gov/fuel.asp?pn=1) is trying to reduce its environmental footprint... by reducing thank you notes?

🙄

FBO Bum 09-23-2018 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Winston (Post 2679687)
So you’re telling me that a company that burned 17.3 BILLION gallons of JET-A in 2017 (https://www.transtats.bts.gov/fuel.asp) is trying to reduce its environmental footprint... by reducing thank you notes?



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Negative, that is what I was told by Cage regarding the thank you cards. But, United is trying to reduce their footprint https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...l-sources.html
I guess you’ve got to start with something. If you multiply 10K applications and thank you cards over 10 years, that’s a lot of paper. Pretty soon you’ll need to bring your resume and supporting documents on a USB drive haha [emoji23]


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Squallrider 09-24-2018 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by FBO Bum (Post 2678487)
That’s what they said at the event.


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Curious if you heard that on the military day?
(about Hogan’s going out this week)

FBO Bum 09-24-2018 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2679888)
Curious if you heard that on the military day?

(about Hogan’s going out this week)


I was at the civilian day.


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FBO Bum 09-25-2018 05:27 AM

Any Hogan’s yet?!?


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Three Wolf Moon 09-25-2018 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by FBO Bum (Post 2680472)
Any Hogan’s yet?!?


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On Thursday afternoon Susan made it sound like they wouldn't be going out until the first week of October.

Squallrider 09-25-2018 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by Three Wolf Moon (Post 2680523)
On Thursday afternoon Susan made it sound like they wouldn't be going out until the first week of October.

The wait is killing me ha

FBO Bum 09-25-2018 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2680537)
The wait is killing me ha



Same here!!!


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FBO Bum 09-25-2018 07:56 AM

Questions:
1. Are the results from the Hogan verified by a human or is it all automated computer verified?
2. How many days after you take the hogan do you get the yes or no?


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Squallrider 09-25-2018 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by FBO Bum (Post 2680558)
Questions:
1. Are the results from the Hogan verified by a human or is it all automated computer verified?
2. How many days after you take the hogan do you get the yes or no?


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The results from my understanding are computer generated and then reviewed by a human.
Results to applicant depends on when you take it apparently according to the hogan thread, if you take it Friday won’t be till following week etc

Big Perm 09-25-2018 10:47 AM

I took the hogan a couple months ago but got my results (interview invite) an hour later.

Ni hao 09-25-2018 11:18 AM

Next day ..................Generally




Originally Posted by FBO Bum (Post 2680558)
Questions:
1. Are the results from the Hogan verified by a human or is it all automated computer verified?
2. How many days after you take the hogan do you get the yes or no?


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John Carr 09-25-2018 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by FBO Bum (Post 2680558)
Questions:
1. Are the results from the Hogan verified by a human or is it all automated computer verified?


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2680584)
The results from my understanding are computer generated and then reviewed by a human.

It may depend. But from what I've always heard is that the computer simply spits out the "pass" to be moved to the next step, interview invite without a human seeing it.

It's been rumored for over a year now that the process will change to not only when a candidate takes it, but as well as a person seeing the ACTUAL test before a CJO is given or not.

F15andMD11 09-26-2018 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by FBO Bum (Post 2680472)
Any Hogan’s yet?!?

I knew this post was coming, haha! I'd be very curious to see how many invites get sent out from the 2 fairs (civ and mil). 100% would be nice, but that won't be the case. I read that for some attendees this was their second fair. Good luck!:cool:

prex8390 09-27-2018 11:08 AM

For those still curious about the in house November job fairs for family members of united employees and former interns, invites went out yesterday for interns and family members went out today. Received an invite for the family event on November 14th.

Regional CA, 2900 TT and 500-600ish PIC are my quals. No LCA, 5 internals and a CP letter.

JetDoc 09-27-2018 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2681956)
For those still curious about the in house November job fairs for family members of united employees and former interns, invites went out yesterday for interns and family members went out today. Received an invite for the family event on November 14th.

Regional CA, 2900 TT and 500-600ish PIC are my quals. No LCA, 5 internals and a CP letter.

Good for you! As a point of reference I did not get one as a regional captain, 5100 TT, 2123 TPIC, I AM a LCA and I have 2 internals. One being from the now retired 777 fleet captain and the kicker, I actually worked at LUAL for 15 years and was a model employee. I was laid off in 2005 as part of the bankruptcy. Good luck!

BobbyLeeSwagger 09-27-2018 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by JetDoc (Post 2682021)
Good for you! As a point of reference I did not get one as a regional captain...

I was gonna ask if you got one, sorry to hear.

crflyer 09-27-2018 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by FBO Bum (Post 2680472)
Any Hogan’s yet?!?

I think punctuation is important. T/F

Just joking. Good luck.

John Carr 09-27-2018 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by crflyer (Post 2682204)
I think punctuation is important. T/F

Just joking. Good luck.

:p;):D

Good catch. Hopefully they’ll become Hogan‘s heroes.

I like to make stupid jokes, T/F.


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