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ItnStln 08-25-2018 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by TripleSpool (Post 2661884)
Of course. No matter how you slice it this is an interview. It amazes me that some would treat this as anything else but that..

Indeed, although when I was a store manager for Verizon the best person I interviewed wore jeans and she ended up being one of my better employees. But me, personally I don’t wear anything less than a suit to an interview.

Winston 08-26-2018 08:05 PM

My brother-in-law worked at the local rail yard as an engineer (the greasy train-driver type, not the slide-rule/computer geek type). A few years ago a sweet supervisor position opened up with a way better schedule, pay, and benefits. We talked a bit about his upcoming interview and I related two things:

- The old saying that you should “Dress for the job you want, not for the job you have.”
- Echoing the statement above, the fact that since I have joined my profession, I have never interviewed in anything other than a full suit and tie.

A few weeks later he told me that 30 guys interviewed for the position, most coming in from the yard in their work clothes to sit down for the interview. He said he went home on his lunch break, showered and shaved, and put on the only suit he owned for the interview.

He got a few cat-calls from his buddies as he walked back through the yard, but he ultimately got the job. He said that they mentioned his suit several times during the interview and brought it up again later when they offered him the job, telling him that he was the only one of those 30 who had done that and that they really appreciated his professionalism.

Long story short, important people are watching and they are taking note of many little things, both good and bad: wear an f’n suit.

TransWorld 08-27-2018 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Winston (Post 2662686)
My brother-in-law worked at the local rail yard as an engineer (the greasy train-driver type, not the slide-rule/computer geek type). A few years ago a sweet supervisor position opened up with a way better schedule, pay, and benefits. We talked a bit about his upcoming interview and I related two things:

- The old saying that you should “Dress for the job you want, not for the job you have.”
- Echoing the statement above, the fact that since I have joined my profession, I have never interviewed in anything other than a full suit and tie.

A few weeks later he told me that 30 guys interviewed for the position, most coming in from the yard in their work clothes to sit down for the interview. He said he went home on his lunch break, showered and shaved, and put on the only suit he owned for the interview.

He got a few cat-calls from his buddies as he walked back through the yard, but he ultimately got the job. He said that they mentioned his suit several times during the interview and brought it up again later when they offered him the job, telling him that he was the only one of those 30 who had done that and that they really appreciated his professionalism.

Long story short, important people are watching and they are taking note of many little things, both good and bad: wear an f’n suit.

+1........

Fourpaw 09-01-2018 01:47 PM

Anyone have suggestions for color/style of ties and/or pocket squares? Should I try to make it United themed or just go with standard patterns?

Triumph 09-01-2018 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Fourpaw (Post 2666569)
Anyone have suggestions for color/style of ties and/or pocket squares? Should I try to make it United themed or just go with standard patterns?



Nothing outside of the normal. Dark suit and normal/professional looking tie. They don’t pay that close attention to things like that, unless your tie is oddly out of place or your suit is that out of a clown’s wardrobe. Dark blue,dark gray suit and a red, blue tie is probably most common.


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FBO Bum 09-01-2018 06:00 PM

Good question, I was wondering the same. I have a black suit and a blue shirt with a simple patterned tie. The color of the shirt and tie and from United’s color scheme. I’m going all in baby! [emoji205]


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triandfly 09-05-2018 10:31 AM

In a bit of a panic here. I received the invite in the first round, definitely going. My first class medical was up in August and between my AME being on vacation much of the month and me blocking 95 hours I couldn't get in. (I'm an SIC at current company, so fine here as far as 2nd class is concerned). I have an appointment in September but it's just after the job fair and I'm desperately trying to get in beforehand and am on a "cancellation list" but if nothing comes up how bad is this going to look? I'm not concerned I won't pass but where I live there aren't options for AME's nearby.

Ni hao 09-05-2018 11:32 AM

United requires a 1st class. I would fly to somewhere to get it done. That's me.






Originally Posted by triandfly (Post 2668807)
In a bit of a panic here. I received the invite in the first round, definitely going. My first class medical was up in August and between my AME being on vacation much of the month and me blocking 95 hours I couldn't get in. (I'm an SIC at current company, so fine here as far as 2nd class is concerned). I have an appointment in September but it's just after the job fair and I'm desperately trying to get in beforehand and am on a "cancellation list" but if nothing comes up how bad is this going to look? I'm not concerned I won't pass but where I live there aren't options for AME's nearby.


pilotgolfer 09-05-2018 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by triandfly (Post 2668807)
In a bit of a panic here. I received the invite in the first round, definitely going. My first class medical was up in August and between my AME being on vacation much of the month and me blocking 95 hours I couldn't get in. (I'm an SIC at current company, so fine here as far as 2nd class is concerned). I have an appointment in September but it's just after the job fair and I'm desperately trying to get in beforehand and am on a "cancellation list" but if nothing comes up how bad is this going to look? I'm not concerned I won't pass but where I live there aren't options for AME's nearby.

It’s a job fair. Don’t over think it. Nobody is checking your license and medical. HR reps wouldn’t even know what a medical looks like. If this was an actual interview, then show up with a valid First Class. This is not the interview.

Squallrider 09-05-2018 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by triandfly (Post 2668807)
In a bit of a panic here. I received the invite in the first round, definitely going. My first class medical was up in August and between my AME being on vacation much of the month and me blocking 95 hours I couldn't get in. (I'm an SIC at current company, so fine here as far as 2nd class is concerned). I have an appointment in September but it's just after the job fair and I'm desperately trying to get in beforehand and am on a "cancellation list" but if nothing comes up how bad is this going to look? I'm not concerned I won't pass but where I live there aren't options for AME's nearby.

Idk where you live but dr kitslaar is in ORD and he always has openings if you are really concerned. Book appointment online.

ReadyRsv 09-05-2018 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 2668853)
It’s a job fair. Don’t over think it. Nobody is checking your license and medical. HR reps wouldn’t even know what a medical looks like. If this was an actual interview, then show up with a valid First Class. This is not the interview.

BAD ADVICE ALERT



Not having a 1st class medical in the application website will void your app. Find somewhere and go.

Side Note: HR Reps at UAL definitely will know what a 1st class medical looks like, they are people who hire airline pilots for a living not random nobodies. Who do you think goes over the application when you go to an interview?

rightside02 09-07-2018 02:17 AM

Having to have a medical for a job fair !?!?: I agree , don’t overthink it. Surely you need one for the overall job position but not to hand out your resume and talk shop for 10 mins

Not required period. You aren’t submitting any documents . You can update your Medical when you get it on Airline apps . I would do it quickly just in case your stuff gets scored/reviewed ASAP . However if you can’t get it done prior to job fair it’s fine . You can always mention it and say you have appointment to do it . The Recriument team/HR are very understanding people . Get it done if you can but surely not required for a job fair.

Fourpaw 09-07-2018 04:29 AM

Anyone prepping for possible questions not mentioned in the AeroCrew email? I see the 4-5 are pretty basic. What about reviewing some of the common interview questions?

Triumph 09-07-2018 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by rightside02 (Post 2669931)
Having to have a medical for a job fair !?!?: I agree , don’t overthink it. Surely you need one for the overall job position but not to hand out your resume and talk shop for 10 mins



Not required period. You aren’t submitting any documents . You can update your Medical when you get it on Airline apps . I would do it quickly just in case your stuff gets scored/reviewed ASAP . However if you can’t get it done prior to job fair it’s fine . You can always mention it and say you have appointment to do it . The Recriument team/HR are very understanding people . Get it done if you can but surely not required for a job fair.



Yeah, you should risk showing up to a job fair where they only invited the most “qualified” applicants, based on their airline-apps applications. And now you aren’t technically qualified because your medical is expired. That sounds like a great strategy.....

Go get your medical before you show up. I don’t know why this is even a question.


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TheBridgeKeeper 09-07-2018 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Fourpaw (Post 2669958)
Anyone prepping for possible questions not mentioned in the AeroCrew email? I see the 4-5 are pretty basic. What about reviewing some of the common interview questions?

What questions? My email from them does not have any listed. Only a timeline.

AeroCrewSolut 09-07-2018 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by Fourpaw (Post 2669958)
Anyone prepping for possible questions not mentioned in the AeroCrew email? I see the 4-5 are pretty basic. What about reviewing some of the common interview questions?

There will be not be any tell me about a time (TMMAT) or what would you do (WWYD) type questions. You can expect at a minimum, Why United and Tell me about yourself.

Come prepared and don’t give an answer that you can use at another airline interview.

ReadyRsv 09-07-2018 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by rightside02 (Post 2669931)
Having to have a medical for a job fair !?!?: I agree , don’t overthink it. Surely you need one for the overall job position but not to hand out your resume and talk shop for 10 mins

Not required period. You aren’t submitting any documents . You can update your Medical when you get it on Airline apps . I would do it quickly just in case your stuff gets scored/reviewed ASAP . However if you can’t get it done prior to job fair it’s fine . You can always mention it and say you have appointment to do it . The Recriument team/HR are very understanding people . Get it done if you can but surely not required for a job fair.


This is terrible, life altering bad advice. If you do not have a valid medical or passport you are not eligible for an interview at United Airlines and your application drops out of the system for consideration. Many Many airlines have a computer, even at cattle call, meet and greets to enter info on applications, they will know.

I would do everything in my physical capacity to get a first class. If there is no humanly possible way, bring it up.

Airway 09-07-2018 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by triandfly (Post 2668807)
In a bit of a panic here. I received the invite in the first round, definitely going. My first class medical was up in August and between my AME being on vacation much of the month and me blocking 95 hours I couldn't get in. (I'm an SIC at current company, so fine here as far as 2nd class is concerned). I have an appointment in September but it's just after the job fair and I'm desperately trying to get in beforehand and am on a "cancellation list" but if nothing comes up how bad is this going to look? I'm not concerned I won't pass but where I live there aren't options for AME's nearby.

You seriously live in proximity to only one AME? That's hard to believe.

If you have to drive a couple hours or fly, go do it. You'll be much more comfortable at the fair. I would not go to this somewhat exclusive hiring event with an invalid application. If you're flying that much, do it on a layover.

JetDoc 09-07-2018 09:09 AM

My medical and passport are valid and I have a bunch of 121 TPIC, can I have an invite please? And oh yeah, I actually WORKED at United for 15 years previously.

pilotgolfer 09-07-2018 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 2670074)
This is terrible, life altering bad advice. If you do not have a valid medical or passport you are not eligible for an interview at United Airlines and your application drops out of the system for consideration. Many Many airlines have a computer, even at cattle call, meet and greets to enter info on applications, they will know.

I would do everything in my physical capacity to get a first class. If there is no humanly possible way, bring it up.

Don’t be a drama queen. Life Altering? Thats just ridiculous. If it were me, I’d update airlineapps with a first class medical dated Sept 2018. Go to the job fair...where they will not be looking at any paperwork. Go back to work and get on with your life. Get your new medical and then correct the date on your app. Zero drama and you’re done with it.

If you think they have the resources to check every iteration of your application, then disregard.

triandfly 09-09-2018 10:18 AM

Medical taken care of, got on their cancellation list and an opening popped up that day. Perfect. Seems I created some drama here, sorry for that.
Yes, I do in fact live in an area where AME’s aren’t around every corner.
All is good. See you in a week and a half.

Dave Fitzgerald 09-09-2018 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by triandfly (Post 2671050)
Medical taken care of, got on their cancellation list and an opening popped up that day. Perfect. Seems I created some drama here, sorry for that.
Yes, I do in fact live in an area where AME’s aren’t around every corner.
All is good. See you in a week and a half.

Good luck. Better to ask the question.

ReadyRsv 09-09-2018 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 2670345)
Don’t be a drama queen. Life Altering? Thats just ridiculous. If it were me, I’d update airlineapps with a first class medical dated Sept 2018. Go to the job fair...where they will not be looking at any paperwork. Go back to work and get on with your life. Get your new medical and then correct the date on your app. Zero drama and you’re done with it.

If you think they have the resources to check every iteration of your application, then disregard.

Life Alerting as in staying at a regional for 2 more years vs getting on at united. Absolutely. Now you say to falsify your app. More great advice.

I want to focus on this golden gem of poor thought.
If you think they have the resources to check every iteration of your application, then disregard
United, does, in fact have every resource available to validate resumes. The date on your medical will be verified when you interview and present a photocopy of your valid info. It's one of the few things that will be 100% verified, probably the worst possible thing to alter. Also, the company takes snapshots of your app and checks what you change. These go back quite a ways. I have heard information from at least 2 different higher-ups of people getting FIRED after showing up for indoc because they caught doctored applications. People have had their interviews cancelled for adding on things after they get the call. All this to avoid going to the doc? Lazy, dishonest and poorly informed advice. What next? Guestimate IFR time?


Sorry if I offended your sensibilities or acted like a 'drama queen' for insisting that OP not LIE on his application, like you suggest. I stand by the fact that opportunities like this don;t come often, and blowing a chance at a legacy job WILL in fact, have life altering consequences.

ReadyRsv 09-09-2018 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by triandfly (Post 2671050)
Medical taken care of, got on their cancellation list and an opening popped up that day. Perfect. Seems I created some drama here, sorry for that.
Yes, I do in fact live in an area where AME’s aren’t around every corner.
All is good. See you in a week and a half.

Good for you for double checking! Best of luck!

Sike 09-13-2018 10:33 PM

So wait, they care about IFR time?

Squallrider 09-14-2018 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by Sike (Post 2673936)
So wait, they care about IFR time?

Probably to meet ATP requirements then not anymore lol

Regularguy 09-14-2018 04:25 AM

In case any of those here decide to falsify something on their app, like medical dates, in seconds it can be verified on line.

I went to faa.gov, searched my name and all my current certification data came up. No hours, but all my licenses, ratings, last medical date and restrictions. So does United’s fancy Applcation program do that? Why find out.

baseball 09-14-2018 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Airway (Post 2670083)
You seriously live in proximity to only one AME? That's hard to believe.

If you have to drive a couple hours or fly, go do it. You'll be much more comfortable at the fair. I would not go to this somewhat exclusive hiring event with an invalid application. If you're flying that much, do it on a layover.

Great, but commonsense advice.

flyingpuma1 09-16-2018 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by JetDoc (Post 2670133)
My medical and passport are valid and I have a bunch of 121 TPIC, can I have an invite please? And oh yeah, I actually WORKED at United for 15 years previously.



You’re not alone.....


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Loveforairp38 09-17-2018 05:49 PM

UAL now has a spot for attendance of "United Recruiting Event" or "United Sponsored Event" (plus the obvious NGPA/WIA/OBAP) in the addendum, so just to sum this all up looking forward, where is the best place/reference for knowing when these United Events are taking place?

prex8390 09-18-2018 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Loveforairp38 (Post 2676174)
UAL now has a spot for attendance of "United Recruiting Event" or "United Sponsored Event" (plus the obvious NGPA/WIA/OBAP) in the addendum, so just to sum this all up looking forward, where is the best place/reference for knowing when these United Events are taking place?

Ngpa and wia are usually in the spring. Like within a month of each other. Obap was last month.

Squallrider 09-18-2018 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2676550)
Ngpa and wia are usually in the spring. Like within a month of each other. Obap was last month.

I think there’s a shift industry wide to in house being the best

FBO Bum 09-18-2018 01:35 PM

Good luck to everyone going on the 19th. See y’all there. If anyone is staying across from the Training Center and wanna hang PM me.


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Squallrider 09-18-2018 01:52 PM

Good luck everyone I’ll be there tomorrow too ha

triandfly 09-18-2018 05:16 PM

I’m here! Holiday Inn! Good luck to everyone tomorrow!

Squallrider 09-18-2018 05:52 PM

Anyone else at the double tree? Trying to figure out how to get over there

Aviatorr 09-18-2018 06:13 PM

The DT van will take you over there just ask the front desk, tons of other pilots go between the two all day long!! Good luck!!

Squallrider 09-18-2018 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Aviatorr (Post 2676865)
The DT van will take you over there just ask the front desk, tons of other pilots go between the two all day long!! Good luck!!

Thanks! I’ll be there early ha

Hurondriver 09-19-2018 02:01 PM

Heading here at 6 pm if anyone want to join
http://www.station26brewing.co/. Around the corner from training center and hotels.


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jdt30 09-19-2018 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Hurondriver (Post 2677450)
Heading here at 6 pm if anyone want to join
STATION 26 BREWING CO.. Around the corner from training center and hotels.


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Stopped by there during training. I either over ordered or was over served.😀. Don’t really care. They have good beer.
Good luck to everyone


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