The crickets have been replaced by that tumble weed that’s in every western

Got the interview invite yesterday!

Be patient email 24 Oct
Hogan Invite 31
Took Hogan 1 Nov
Interview Invite 7 Nov

Went to the morning session of the mil day

Super excited to get the opportunity!

Got the interview invite today!

Be patient email 24 Oct
Hogan invite 31 Oct
Took Hogan 1 Nov
Interview invite 7 Nov

Was at the mil day, morning session. April 19 availability. Super excited for the opportunity!

My thumbs are getting carpal-tunnel from the massive amounts of email refresh.

😂🤣

^This. My wife about killed me because I kept responding to every email notification as if it was the invite / hogan etc. The sad part was when I got the Hogan I angered her since I woke her up as the email showed late at night while I was reading in bed. Then when I got the interview invite I yelled out loud a bit of a celebratory whoop, and scared the dookie out of her and the dogs.

That’s funny.
I’ll be sure to be a little more subdued.

I’ve unsubscribed from everything I could lol

I'm starting to realize how much I am not a unique butterfly... Momma's got some explaining to do, she done lied to me!

For those that attended the September fair, I’m going this week. What was discussed during the one on one portions with the recruiter?

How many copies of my resume should I bring? What kind of paper did y’all use

Mainly "Why United". A lot of my conversation with my one on one was actually the Captain explaining to me why United should be my number one after this. I greatly appreciated this conversation because I always feel artificial when answering that question, and it felt good to be recruited for a change versus have an organization play the opposite. We also talked lightly about expectations and what to bring to the interview.

So I had a different experience, I talked about why United, said typical reasons for about 30 seconds, about 5 minutes as to how I got where I am, then I spoke about 20 minutes about my volunteer work, it was a organization near and dear to the recruiter. We had a great conversation, jokes etc...I didn’t get anything yet despite thinking it went really well.

General consensus why United and tel me about yourself to date.

That sounds very positive. Mine lasted 13 minutes. I left with a positive impression but then again one never knows.

Yea, def felt that way, that’s why I’m so baffled ha

Again they said invites would be going out for Q1 2019 so at the very least I'd expect more to flow into Jan / Feb. Remember not every one is active on these forums or feels comfortable sharing their own invites etc, so may be more going out that we are unaware of.

September me- checks email obsessively, at least once an hour, frequently more. November me- meh, once a week should do it.

Random question-
Did any 135 guys get invited this event?

Yes they did.

So tell me, how does a 5200 hour TT regional Captain and LCA who actually had a file number with UAL for 15 years get an invite?

I assume this is a rhetorical question. Otherwise the answer is a fair amount of networking, a decent resume, and a little bit of luck.


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No, but here's how:

Go back to getting a job as a CFI, hang around Goodyear, AZ for a spell and make sure to volunteer at some worthwhile charity to headline on your resume.

Most qualified indeed. :cool:

Our hiring practices have gone straight to hell.

I’d imagine that pipeline is gonna close off indefinitely. I’m hearing around TK that there has been a lot of new hire failures recently.....


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I don’t blame the people coming through this program. I would think most understand this opportunity and work hard in training. However our training program is not designed for someone who doesn’t have experience outside of piston CFI work. It’s not a knock on them, just the facts.... That’s also not saying that it can’t work, as some have made it through....Regional airline programs work with these experience levels all the time, but having been through a regional training program (although 8 years ago) the training was outstanding, and you were expected to work hard, but it was a longer footprint and much more spoon fed than what we have at UAL.... UAL is great about working with people who struggle in training if they are working hard and have a good attitude. We will work hard to get pilots through, however at some point if you can’t cut it, it would be a disservice to our other pilots to push them through.

Maybe someone else can correct me, but I believe the average time for the group was around 10k hours. Told we were the top 2% of the existing apps.
Still patiently (sort of) waiting. No contact since my survey.

Same here I’m afraid

The average civilian new hire has 6 to 7 thousand hours but they are looking at everything and it is competitive. Sloppy app, expired medical/passport on app, failures, no letters of rec, been at x regional for a decade with no union work or no work at improving your airline, ... after looking at every persons situation that has wanted my help I have found pretty significant reasons that they were overlooking for not getting the call. There are usually a handful of lower time individuals in every class that pull down the average but even with low TT military guys the average flight time was still over 5500hrs. The competition is stiff.

Does that TT statistic include CPP’s as well, or is that for strictly OTS hires?

[QUOTE=Triumph;2709337]I’d imagine that pipeline is gonna close off indefinitely. I’m hearing around TK that there has been a lot of new hire failures recently.


And your hearing this in your sleep.

Define a failure.
1. Additional training
2. A PV,MV, OR LOE bust?
3. An FRP?(if you don’t know what this is then this further supports
My point this is all rumor.

Those TT averages were ballpark numbers from the last few years of hiring. Every year they have presented the previous years data and it changes very little. CPP is in there now but the percentages being pulled from those airlines has stayed pretty steady even without a CPP. 50/50 mil vs civilian and expressjet and Skywest are usually the top two biggest regionals sending pilots. You can get hired below the averages but you need to play their game their way. It sucks and wears you down but the job is worth it.

Was at Civilian Day. Just got CJO for December.

RJ Capt
6900TT
1500 TPIC
2500 PIC
5000 121 time
2.9 GPA
9 LORs
2 CP meet n greets
4 job fairs
ALPA/Church Volunteer work

I’ve been after UAL for 4 years and it finally happened. Keep the faith!!

These are the guys and gals, (plus our military friends), who deserve to be interviewed and hired here. Best of luck with training and welcome aboard !!

Congrats, when are they offering class dates for you?


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A 4 year degree.

I am curious, where to you put your LORs in airline apps, or do you just bring those to the interview if you can get an interview?

It’s under United addendum , near the top. You put in their email and then they submit it

Got the be patient email and then another email saying Hogan was coming so appears there is hope. Day 2 attendee.

Thank you. Filler

To get the full application points do you still need 10 internal LORS? I will soon have 5, maybe 6. That will pretty much exhaust my United resources. I'll have a total of 10 LORS.

Also do retired pilots LORS carry any weight?

Collect them all! Only 4 left at this low introductory price.

Minimum of 4, no max.

I was told by a CP that they were one point each for a max of 5 points no matter how many you have. So only 5 will count for points on the app score. However, that was during the last administration in HR.

I don’t think I’d ever get hired at United today. I didn’t have any internal recs, wasn’t military, wasn’t a check airman, and never went to a job fair. But for some reason they still took me 11 years ago. It’s a mystery to me.