Vacancy 19-04
11-03-2018, 03:20 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by RatherBeVFR
I think most of us realize that. However, the difference between the have and have not groups is huge. Almost 19 years (LUA) doesn’t hold captain in ORD. Worse in DEN and IAH.
Being in a union is supposed to ensure all are treated the same. Maybe it is time to have a discussion on language to force staffing some of the costal growth with the flyover mid-continent pilots.
Being in a union is supposed to ensure all are treated the same. Maybe it is time to have a discussion on language to force staffing some of the costal growth with the flyover mid-continent pilots.
I bid and moved to the coast to improve my post SLI bidding power. We all have choices to make. I would not support any initiative to artificially preference pilots based on their choice of living/flying(mid continent) arrangement and I doubt many would support such a program. Chasing the flying around is a recipe for continued heart ache. ALPA should not be tasked with choosing geographical winners and losers.
11-03-2018, 03:45 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by CousinEddie
...don’t forget to point a finger at the City of Chicago and the State of Illinois. Financial and political instability has business consequences.
Originally Posted by awax
So if you're looking to make maximum profit, where do you put the assets?
11-04-2018, 09:34 AM
#37
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Originally Posted by grappler72
With the amount of construction that will be happening I don’t foresee much growth in ORD until it is complete.
11-04-2018, 12:10 PM
#38
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Originally Posted by Levigarrett
19 yrs on property or 19 yrs since hire? There is a big difference. I often here guys tell me how they've been at United for 17yrs and can't hold Captain. When you dig a bit you realize they were hired 17yrs ago but have only flown the line for 8yrs due to furlough. I've been furloughed myself so I understand the impulse to play cute with the numbers. A 2001 L-UA does not have 17yrs seniority any more than a late 2007 L-CAL hire has 11 yrs seniority.
I bid and moved to the coast to improve my post SLI bidding power. We all have choices to make. I would not support any initiative to artificially preference pilots based on their choice of living/flying(mid continent) arrangement and I doubt many would support such a program. Chasing the flying around is a recipe for continued heart ache. ALPA should not be tasked with choosing geographical winners and losers.
I bid and moved to the coast to improve my post SLI bidding power. We all have choices to make. I would not support any initiative to artificially preference pilots based on their choice of living/flying(mid continent) arrangement and I doubt many would support such a program. Chasing the flying around is a recipe for continued heart ache. ALPA should not be tasked with choosing geographical winners and losers.
ALPA forcing the company to put flying where it isn’t needed would be totally wrong. How bad do you want to fly Captain? The last bid went junior to everyone on the list prior to the merger. We just happen to be growing the East/west coast and Denver. IAH and ORD used to be junior as well. The pendulum will swing that way again.
11-04-2018, 02:31 PM
#39
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Originally Posted by Learjet driver
IAH and ORD used to be junior as well. The pendulum will swing that way again.
11-04-2018, 04:04 PM
#40
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Originally Posted by Learjet driver
What..... if he/she was hired at UAL in 2000-2001 they have been with the company for 17-18 years. All of the longevity that was lost has been restored. What you ment to say was all of the 1999-2001 UAL pilots were screwed in the merger and got mixed in with 2007-2008 CAL hires. We don’t go around telling the 1978 hires they have only been here since 1985 because they spent 7 years furloughed.
ALPA forcing the company to put flying where it isn’t needed would be totally wrong. How bad do you want to fly Captain? The last bid went junior to everyone on the list prior to the merger. We just happen to be growing the East/west coast and Denver. IAH and ORD used to be junior as well. The pendulum will swing that way again.
ALPA forcing the company to put flying where it isn’t needed would be totally wrong. How bad do you want to fly Captain? The last bid went junior to everyone on the list prior to the merger. We just happen to be growing the East/west coast and Denver. IAH and ORD used to be junior as well. The pendulum will swing that way again.
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