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Old 11-07-2018, 03:07 PM
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Ego amongst other things you have mentioned.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2 View Post
For those in the know...
Why is LAX 756 Captain so much more senior than LAX 737 Captain?



Have you seen the 737 cockpit?
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis View Post
Have you seen the 737 cockpit?
Ever so slightly larger than the 757 production line😳
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Old 11-07-2018, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rightside02 View Post
Ego amongst other things you have mentioned.
So many guys I’ve flown with in LAX/SFO always seem to tell random people in airports or out on layovers that they fly the 767. Which is interesting because we don’t see 767’s in SFO... sounds like ego to me.
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2 View Post
For those in the know...
Why is LAX 756 Captain so much more senior than LAX 737 Captain?

What I hear from from others is "essentially the same pay"... "West coast 757 flying is not near a good as the 737 flying"... "I'd rather go to Hawaii in the 737 than EWR in the 757 for the same pay"...etc....

While the aircraft certainly has a roomier cockpit and nice to fly (according to those that have), how does that account for such a steep difference in Captain seniority between the fleets?
The biggest reason is that our (756) blended rate is artificially high because of the 764. So if you’re going to be on reserve in both categories, the 756 will pay much higher. Another reason is that the 757 is a much superior airplane compared to the Guppy. Much less fatiguing!!! I’ve flown both, so I can attest to that.
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:56 AM
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It’s not “artificially” higher b/c of blended rate. It’s just higher. It’s one fleet and from the west coast you could find yourself on the -300 or even -400 if on reserve, or even with a line - charters, mx repos, etc. Is the 737 fleet blend artificially lower if you never see the -700? Apart from that I agree, holy cow is it a better cockpit!
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:18 AM
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It’s not “artificially” higher b/c of blended rate. It’s just higher. It’s one fleet and from the west coast you could find yourself on the -300 or even -400 if on reserve, or even with a line - charters, mx repos, etc. Is the 737 fleet blend artificially lower if you never see the -700? Apart from that I agree, holy cow is it a better cockpit!
The problem is that most Captains go non-current on the -400 for at least three months because they never see it. The West Coast never sees a 764. In fact the only 764 at a West Coast base is Delta’s in SFO. We only have 16 764s and much more Guppy-700s. Almost impossible to not fly that airplane, especially on reserve.

My comment about the 756 blended rate being artificially high is two fold. The 756 fleet is the only fleet which the blended rate is higher than all but one of the specific airplane rates. Also, the 764 shouldn’t pay the same rate as a 777-300ER.
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Originally Posted by SUX4U View Post
So many guys I’ve flown with in LAX/SFO always seem to tell random people in airports or out on layovers that they fly the 767. Which is interesting because we don’t see 767’s in SFO... sounds like ego to me.
Guys tell people they fly the “737” when in fact they are flying the guppy. Sounds like the same thing to me.
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by O2pilot View Post
Guys tell people they fly the “737” when in fact they are flying the guppy. Sounds like the same thing to me.
Wait a minute... an O2pilot making fun of a 737.

I'm still laughing at that one!

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Originally Posted by DashTrash View Post
The problem is that most Captains go non-current on the -400 for at least three months because they never see it. The West Coast never sees a 764. In fact the only 764 at a West Coast base is Delta’s in SFO. We only have 16 764s and much more Guppy-700s. Almost impossible to not fly that airplane, especially on reserve.

My comment about the 756 blended rate being artificially high is two fold. The 756 fleet is the only fleet which the blended rate is higher than all but one of the specific airplane rates. Also, the 764 shouldn’t pay the same rate as a 777-300ER.
Then neither should the 787-8. Our pay banding is a joke and so is Delta’s.

So should we pay less for the 764 and 787-8? I’m sure the company would love that.
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