AWAX

You need to cool it.

Here’s what we all can do:

After:

1. PDR
2. Calling Rep
3. Emotional rant on the internet, you’ve got this down.

Unless there is a violation of the contractual process in determining what the new threads are we all have only one choice in the end;

Wear it and get paid to do your job.

Get over yourself dude.

 

“The PDR system at UAL has been a tremendous success. With the number of new pilots we’re hiring, we thought we’d review how to file a PDR. Also, we receive questions from some of the old timers like “how do I submit a PDR?”, “What is a PDR?”, and “Why do I need to file a PDR?” PDRs are the record that the Union uses to document interactions between the pilot group and management. It gives your officers and volunteers ammunition to fix the daily problems that arise at United Airlines.“

“The PDR system serves many functions. In addition to directing questions to the appropriate SME in a timely manner it automatically provides data associated with you and your question or concern that helps efficiently address your issue. With your approval a copy of your PDR also goes to your reps so they know what their pilots' issues are. The PDR system holds the company accountable by documenting and archiving contractual non-compliance giving our union the data our volunteers and

officers need to fix chronic problems through negotiations or the grievance process. The system has become such an effective and reliable reflection of line operations that when confronted with an issue, the question from management is often how many PDR's have you gotten.

The PDR is your streamlined union answering service backed by a team of SMEs that makes us all part of the solution. It has revolutionized how our union interacts with members. It has become so critical to our collective success that a PDR button is on every webpage of the new and vastly improved United MEC website at PDR.alpa.org Please also bookmark the direct link http://ual.alpa.org/pdr in your devices, and utilize the system for all things ALPA (not company operational issues) by filing PDRs. If for any reason you don't get a timely response, please email [email protected].”

 

Figures you’d be here to take a swing.

Emotional, hardly.

Wanna correct me on process? I mean you ARE a ORD C12 rep, right?

 

“The foundation this MEC has laid over the past three years will continue to position the United pilots for success. The final UPA hourly pay rate increase of 4% became effective December 30, 2018. We resume negotiations the first week of January, continuing the aggressive schedule we have used since Section 6 opened in March 2018. P2P volunteers will be on the ground answering questions in our terminals system-wide beginning in late January. Finally, you will soon receive the quarterly Negotiating Committee update, “The Brief”, with additional details on the progress of negotiations. If you have any questions, please contact your LEC officers or contact our P2P volunteers at pdr.alpa.org using the “Section 6 Questions-P2P” drop-down menu.

The PDR system is the communication method we have these days and all of our LEC and MEC officers say the same thing, USE IT!

These are documented responses to all sorts of things and are not limited to contractural issues. If enough pilots complain about the tie color it will change and not just because a few yelled louder than others.

 

How about this? Give the board your sample resolution on getting the ball rolling on recalling a "Committee" member. Resolutions have to be without emotion and require laser guided focus....and merit. They not only have to be compelling at the LEC level but at the MEC level too.

What is your exact reason for wanting to recall committee members who volunteer many hours of their time when the complete uniform process hasn't even been completed yet? You think you're going to somehow force the MC to appease you with a statement to the pilot group???

Exactly which piece of the uniform has you mentioning resolutions and recalls? All of it?

Write the sample resolution. Read it several times. If you feel comfortable with the scrutiny it may get here then post it. I guarantee it will have more holes than a slice of Swiss.

BTW, I'd recommend against posting thoughts on FT. There is ZERO advantage to posting your thoughts on FT.

 

Great idea. This ought to be entertaining.

 

Nothing wrong with PDRs, However they are not direction from membership.

 

Ok believe what you want. Out of 12k+ pilots those few who actually attend the meeting speak louder than thousands of PDRs.

 

Yes, that’s exactly correct. The few who attend LEC meetings guide the direction of our union.

For fun, if you want, cite the policy manual that discusses using a PDR to direct union business. I’ll agree with you that PDRs are great way to monitor CBA compliance, but they don’t direct.

Now, if you need for me too, I’m happy to cite chapter and verse for the resolution process in the policy manual.

IF the majority of of LECs brought resolutions which were then ignored because of PDR data, I’d also be able to show you a DFR lawsuit.

 

Wax

You win, you are right, the majority is run by the few, LEC, MEC, & Company really only care about the few who go to the local meetings. Their resolution after resolution is THE holy grail.

Now start your recall and see where it goes.

I’ve done my part.

Now I remember why I hated Council meetings.