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Old 09-27-2019 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Nelson
1437......filler
I believe he was talking numbers from the first go round. That sounds like a figure from the 08 furlough.
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Old 09-27-2019 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by C-17 Driver
OK, I'll bite. What's your point?

Getting furloughed is a major life event. There were suicides, destroyed marriages, & financial ruin for many people.

I was furloughed in '08 and it sucked. It sucked a lot worse for a lot more people. Your posts can be construed as flippant and disrespectful.

It even troubles me that I wasted time responding to your comment.

Old Mako may chime in here with more words, but I would guess this would not be worth his time. You've been at UAL for a few months at least. Surely you have received some mentoring.
And you’ve missed my point entirely. You’re painting me out to be the least sympathetic united pilot on property here. I’m not. I’m simply a guy who said he was the bottom guy in a snapshot and I don’t see the reason Old Mako had correlated my comment with a furlough from 18 years ago. It seems anytime anything good is happening here some United guy has to come out from the darkness and say “ Well you better watch out, it can all be worse”. It gets old!

One furlough is not relevant to the next. They are all different circumstances and having an immense knowledge of a furlough that happened in 2001 won’t prepare you for the next set of challenges unless you really don’t understand what happens when an airline furloughs...which I think we all know the chain of events.

Thanks for your mentoring.

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Old 09-27-2019 | 03:34 PM
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All I said was my how times have changed. You chose to introduce the snark and then invited everyone to flame away. So they did. Now, you're taking umbrage.

Times are good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7wM0QC5LE
(Sorry, too much of a Luddite to know how to embed it. "Those damn kids are on my lawn!")
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Old 09-27-2019 | 03:36 PM
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Back to the point.

Where is the final?
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Old 09-27-2019 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Contrail06
And you’ve missed my point entirely. You’re painting me out to be the least sympathetic united pilot on property here. I’m not. I’m simply a guy who said he was the bottom guy in a snapshot and I don’t see the reason Old Mako had correlated my comment with a furlough from 18 years ago. It seems anytime anything good is happening here some United guy has to come out from the darkness and say “ Well you better watch out, it can all be worse”. It gets old!

One furlough is not relevant to the next. They are all different circumstances and having an immense knowledge of a furlough that happened in 2001 won’t prepare you for the next set of challenges unless you really don’t understand what happens when an airline furloughs...which I think we all know the chain of events.

Thanks for your mentoring.
I don’t know you or your history... but if you’re a student of history (or lived it like many here) you can understand why guys are dismissive of the current run of good times, and advocate preparing for the next storm. They also have little tolerance for whining about how terrible xyz situation is because whatever that situation is today there was a time guys would’ve given their first born to only be burdened with that “problem.” (My profit sharing is only 6%!!! WT!$@?%#)

I.e. a new hire whining about 6 months being on reserve to a double furlough.
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Old 09-27-2019 | 05:05 PM
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Mako:

Thanks for the Python....never saw that piece; it was hilarious!!
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Old 09-27-2019 | 06:12 PM
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Ok...I surrender.
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Old 09-27-2019 | 07:58 PM
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Apparently the reference to history is somewhat narrow. I am a student of history so forgive my lack of tolerance for the whining that is still being done about the furlough years as my historically-informed lens is correspondingly wider. Do you know what my grandfather would have given to have a job to get furloughed from in the first place back in 1935? My goodness how he would curse at people complaining about being laid off from their jobs in 2008. Every generation falsely seems to think its own suffering is uniquely unparalleled and unprecedented and that anyone who didnt live through that suffering is somehow unworthy of uttering a complaint.

To be honest, most of us probably care about the lingering furlough quips about as much as those who proffer them care about someone's grandfather skinning rats to feed the family in the mid-western dust bowl of the 1930s.

I for one take pride in the fact that we in the west have a unique ability to continuously provide a better standard of living for each subsequent generation and I'm glad that my kids don't have to suffer through some of the crap that I did.
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Old 09-28-2019 | 01:23 AM
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"victim mentality" when people flaunt it. Nobody owes you anything. If someone wants to know your history they'll ask you or read up. Let the new people be.
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Old 09-28-2019 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by blizzue
Back to the point.

Where is the final?
I’m hoping today. I know it’s Saturday but every vacancy going back has either been the day of closing or the following day.
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