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Old 10-12-2019, 12:07 PM   #21  
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Is it just me, or in the past 2-3 days have their been an exponential increase in posts where the grammar and spelling are worthy of a 2nd grader?
Are more people posting drunk?
Should I feel bad because I didn't come to the cockpit and say hi on my last deadhead?
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Old 10-12-2019, 12:25 PM   #22  
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Should I feel bad because I didn't come to the cockpit and say hi on my last deadhead?

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Old 10-12-2019, 05:18 PM   #23  
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Is it just me, or in the past 2-3 days have their been an exponential increase in posts where the grammar and spelling are worthy of a 2nd grader?
Are more people posting drunk?
Should I feel bad because I didn't come to the cockpit and say hi on my last deadhead?
Inquiring minds...
It should be "Hi"....
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:02 AM   #24  
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Thatís Joe Peck (heís proudly outted himself on this forum many times) calling our union brothers and sisters at SWA morons.

FACTS: All pilots at SWA fly the B737 aircraft. Boeing delivered a product with undisclosed defects. SWA pilots suffered financial damage due to Boeingís negligence. SWAPA is seeking $10K per pilot in restitution.

Weather or not they prevail is less important than recognizing a union thatís looking to make its members financially whole.

Nice unity Joe.


Oh, dear. I've been outed again.

First, SWAPA is not ALPA. When I started my aviation career, there were several carriers for which I would never have considered working. SWA was one. From the beginning SWA pilots undercut ALPA by accepting work rules to which no legacy pilot would ever have agreed. They also giddily stole market share during the 2000s by working even harder at a time when the legacies were on their backs. SWAPA pilots have no loyalty to any union other than their own. Yes, SWA pilots are paid well, but they happily work like dogs to earn that pay.

To wit, my second point. Most of the employees at Boeing are union members. How about SWAPA shows them some unity in this difficult time as our MEC Chair has done from the beginning?


Third, in the history of commercial airline manufacturing there are numerous examples of planes that had initial problems. Right off the bat, I remember the story of the de Havilland Comet. The first ever commercial jetliner, and tragically it had a flaw that caused it to break up in flight. If the customers of airplane manufacturers sued every time a plane was delivered with a flaw there would be no commercial airplane manufacturers left.

Lastly, it's whether not weather.

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Now back to our regularly scheduled programming . . .

With our Dear Leader having made nice with the Chinese this weekend, I wonder if that will keep the economic juggernaut rolling right along for another couple years. I am truly and happily amazed out how quickly WB seniority in both seats is dropping. Only a few months back I was thinking it would be 5 or 6 years before I could hold 777 cap in EWR and now it looks like it could happen in 2021. Holy rapid movement Batman!!

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Old 10-13-2019, 05:27 AM   #25  
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Thatís Joe Peck (heís proudly outted himself on this forum many times) calling our union brothers and sisters at SWA morons.

FACTS: All pilots at SWA fly the B737 aircraft. Boeing delivered a product with undisclosed defects. SWA pilots suffered financial damage due to Boeingís negligence. SWAPA is seeking $10K per pilot in restitution.

Weather or not they prevail is less important than recognizing a union thatís looking to make its members financially whole.

Nice unity Joe.
Apparently you didnít watch Bugs Bunny as a kid.
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Old 10-13-2019, 09:02 AM   #26  
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Oh, dear. I've been outed again.

First, SWAPA is not ALPA. When I started my aviation career, there were several carriers for which I would never have considered working. SWA was one. From the beginning SWA pilots undercut ALPA by accepting work rules to which no legacy pilot would ever have agreed. They also giddily stole market share during the 2000s by working even harder at a time when the legacies were on their backs. SWAPA pilots have no loyalty to any union other than their own. Yes, SWA pilots are paid well, but they happily work like dogs to earn that pay.

To wit, my second point. Most of the employees at Boeing are union members. How about SWAPA shows them some unity in this difficult time as our MEC Chair has done from the beginning?


Third, in the history of commercial airline manufacturing there are numerous examples of planes that had initial problems. Right off the bat, I remember the story of the de Havilland Comet. The first ever commercial jetliner, and tragically it had a flaw that caused it to break up in flight. If the customers of airplane manufacturers sued every time a plane was delivered with a flaw there would be no commercial airplane manufacturers left.

Lastly, it's whether not weather.

Joe Peck
EWRFO

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming . . .

With our Dear Leader having made nice with the Chinese this weekend, I wonder if that will keep the economic juggernaut rolling right along for another couple years. I am truly and happily amazed out how quickly WB seniority in both seats is dropping. Only a few months back I was thinking it would be 5 or 6 years before I could hold 777 cap in EWR and now it looks like it could happen in 2021. Holy rapid movement Batman!!
Boeing MGT. is no friend to labor. They have been some of the most vocal about allowing outfits like Norwegian, moving work to SC to undercut union contracts, and having a hostile work relationship with their union employees...especially their engineers. The engineers who should have been doing work on the max were replaced with lower cost $15/hr ones because Boeing felt that the work on these planes were mature, and did not require the best engineers. Boeing is more concerned with profit then safety. This lawsuit and the others that will follow are just. The only thing these guys understand is the bottom line, and this is where it will hit them. Screw Boeing MGT. maybe the next group to lead the organization will understand the value of something other than $$.
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Boeing MGT. is no friend to labor. They have been some of the most vocal about allowing outfits like Norwegian, moving work to SC to undercut union contracts, and having a hostile work relationship with their union employees...especially their engineers. The engineers who should have been doing work on the max were replaced with lower cost $15/hr ones because Boeing felt that the work on these planes were mature, and did not require the best engineers. Boeing is more concerned with profit then safety. This lawsuit and the others that will follow are just. The only thing these guys understand is the bottom line, and this is where it will hit them. Screw Boeing MGT. maybe the next group to lead the organization will understand the value of something other than $$.
This 100x over. F Boeing (mgmt).
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Old 10-13-2019, 09:34 AM   #28  
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Sleeves,

Two thumbs up!




I've got an acquaintance who has worked - on and off - for Boeing for decades. He's an engineer and they treat him like a migrant worker. He was a non-union type as a young man and a staunch union man now. 30 years of getting whipsawed changed his tune.

The first 777 rolled off the line ready to fly. All the components and assemblies bolted right up with minimal modification. Compare that with the 787, and now the MAX fiasco. Unions didn't screw that company up and make those $hort $ighted decisions, management did.
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Old 10-13-2019, 11:38 AM   #29  
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The previous vacancy bid had snapshots everyday. Donít see any for this vacancy yet. When will the snapshots post?


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The previous vacancy bid had snapshots everyday. Donít see any for this vacancy yet. When will the snapshots post?


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Itís only published on work days. Depending on UALís definition of a holiday. Itíll be tomorrow or Tuesday.
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