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Old 10-15-2019, 01:37 PM
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Does anyone know if this will be the last "mega" bid for the year? I haven't read anything on how many of these to expect before they shut off the faucet until next fall. I'm assuming they will do one or two smaller clean ups but wasn't sure if they would do another big one.
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Old 10-15-2019, 01:48 PM
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I would guess once the MAX gets cleared for T/O, we’ll see a good sized bid.
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Old 10-15-2019, 01:50 PM
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Does anyone know if this will be the last "mega" bid for the year? I haven't read anything on how many of these to expect before they shut off the faucet until next fall. I'm assuming they will do one or two smaller clean ups but wasn't sure if they would do another big one.
If trade war resolved, HKG protests end, and 737max gets certified, expect some nice bids every month.

If trade war intensifies, Boeing implodes, and ww3 breaks out, expect furlough.

Sorry, that wasn't helpful, but probably fairly accurate. I don't think the company has said this yet, but outside of retirement churn, my guess is capt seats won't grow until max is resolved, and WB growth has had its big expansion with anything beyond the current status quo being dependent on an improving foreign affairs environment. Conditions are primed to punish any big bites at further expansion imo.
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Old 10-15-2019, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Longball View Post
Does anyone know if this will be the last "mega" bid for the year? I haven't read anything on how many of these to expect before they shut off the faucet until next fall. I'm assuming they will do one or two smaller clean ups but wasn't sure if they would do another big one.
Historically the bids slow down in the spring. They don’t want many line pilots going through transition training in the summer. But the next few bids also typically go more senior as training will be Jan/Feb/March when the senior folks aren’t likely to lose vacation for training.
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Longball View Post
Does anyone know if this will be the last "mega" bid for the year? I haven't read anything on how many of these to expect before they shut off the faucet until next fall. I'm assuming they will do one or two smaller clean ups but wasn't sure if they would do another big one.
Straight from Paul Carlson’s mouth is another “medium” bid in November followed by a “super” bid in December.
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Old 10-15-2019, 07:15 PM
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Straight from Paul Carlson’s mouth is another “medium” bid in November followed by a “super” bid in December.
Awesome, thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for. Couldn't find it anywhere in print and was wondering if anyone had heard or read anything. Last year they tipped us off as to how many big ones they were gonna run during fall/winter. Not so much this year. Most likely based on lack of timeline for the MAX.
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Old 10-16-2019, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Longball View Post
Does anyone know if this will be the last "mega" bid for the year? I haven't read anything on how many of these to expect before they shut off the faucet until next fall. I'm assuming they will do one or two smaller clean ups but wasn't sure if they would do another big one.
As others have said training tends to slow down over the summer, but also look at the aircraft delivery schedule. No sense training pilots for aircraft that haven't shown up yet.

For 2020 schedule new aircraft are:

2 777’s (coming early 2020)
15 787’s (spread throughout the year but mostly fall or earlier)

And 28 Max’s (in addition to the 16 that were supposed to be delivered by the end of this year). But who knows when those were actually be able to fly.
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Old 10-16-2019, 04:09 AM
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As others have said training tends to slow down over the summer, but also look at the aircraft delivery schedule. No sense training pilots for aircraft that haven't shown up yet.

For 2020 schedule new aircraft are:

2 777’s (coming early 2020)
15 787’s (spread throughout the year but mostly fall or earlier)

And 28 Max’s (in addition to the 16 that were supposed to be delivered by the end of this year). But who knows when those were actually be able to fly.
Those are only new aircraft. We also have 19 used 737NGs starting with 2 in Q4 and more used 319s trickling in.
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Old 10-16-2019, 06:17 AM
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How do the snapshots process seat locks?

I see quite a few instances of new (sub 2 year) 737 CA lateraling to the 320 or vice versa and new 777 FOs with 787 bids. Does that mean those names will disappear for the final, thus making things more junior or do they incur a cumulative freeze after the new training?
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Old 10-16-2019, 06:29 AM
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How do the snapshots process seat locks?

I see quite a few instances of new (sub 2 year) 737 CA lateraling to the 320 or vice versa and new 777 FOs with 787 bids. Does that mean those names will disappear for the final, thus making things more junior or do they incur a cumulative freeze after the new training?
If they haven't been trained yet there is no seat lock. How long is the 737 upgrade short course? Pretty sure there is a section of the UPA that addresses short training courses and a 1 year freeze.

Edited - I just looked at the snapshot. The junior SFO 787 folks many were awarded the 777 last month and haven't even been scheduled for training yet therefore 8-D-1-c applies.
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