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10-23-2019, 06:13 AM
#71
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Originally Posted by UALinIAH
A new hire who gets the 756 can also bid the 777. 8D is very clear. You can bid up to a higher seat. The only thing that would prevent it would be a Bidding freeze from 8-D-2. That’s not applicable to a new hire.
It’s odd that the system prevents new hires forced into the 756 from flying more beneficial platforms like the 737/320 for such a long period despite rapid movement in the system.
10-23-2019, 06:28 AM
#72
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If the company wants to prevent wasted money and training events from new hires being forced into (and immediately bidding off) the 756, the solution is simple: make the 756 more desirable.
Now if we could only find a way to make an airframe more desirable to a pilot...
Now if we could only find a way to make an airframe more desirable to a pilot...
10-23-2019, 06:36 AM
#73
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Originally Posted by Winston
Now if we could only find a way to make an airframe more desirable to a pilot...
But not every Tuesday, let's not go nuts.
10-23-2019, 08:41 AM
#74
Seat 0B
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: 777 FO
Posts: 791
Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
I think if the pay was increased and it only flew on Tuesdays there would be lots of interest.
But not every Tuesday, let's not go nuts.
But not every Tuesday, let's not go nuts.
10-23-2019, 09:11 AM
#75
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Originally Posted by rvfanatic
I can see where I wasn’t clear. My point is, it sucks that the current seat lock system which is in use system wide applies to new hires. I don’t know the rules everywhere but I know AA seat lock is only 6 months.
It’s odd that the system prevents new hires forced into the 756 from flying more beneficial platforms like the 737/320 for such a long period despite rapid movement in the system.
It’s odd that the system prevents new hires forced into the 756 from flying more beneficial platforms like the 737/320 for such a long period despite rapid movement in the system.
10-23-2019, 09:24 AM
#76
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Originally Posted by O2pilot
The ridiculous pay rates were a result of the merger contract, where the 757 was pay banded down to match the guppy. So now we are stuck with it. If it paid more as it did in the legacy United contract, we wouldn’t have this problem.
I personally think the company loves it. There’s not much incentive to change planes which cuts training costs.
10-23-2019, 10:23 AM
#77
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Originally Posted by UALinIAH
This. ^^^^^^^^
I personally think the company loves it. There’s not much incentive to change planes which cuts training costs.
I personally think the company loves it. There’s not much incentive to change planes which cuts training costs.
10-23-2019, 11:11 AM
#78
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Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest
But in the legacy United contract, the 767 was banded down and paid the same as the 757. The merger contract broke out the 767-300 from the 757-200 and put (I get it, politically) the 767-400 in with the 777/747/787. We now here about the 757-200 paying the same as the 737/800/900/Max, but we don’t here many complaints from the senior 756 pilots who are making what the 777/787 pilots are making and still able to pick up domestic trips more often as they can fly the 757/767-300 domestic. Regardless of why we are where we are, it needs to change. I completely agree.
10-23-2019, 11:27 AM
#79
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The 757 pay is too low, as is the 767 300. Both of those need to come up.
In the next contract, all rates need to go up,but those two need a big improvement.
Where do we stand now...now that Delta plus is gone?
I don't get why the contract is taking so long. They were working on this well before the amendable date. Seems like we know where the deficiencies are. let's march forward and take back what was stolen from us under bankruptcy, the threat of bankruptcy, and liquidity shortfall.
Surely Kirby gets it right? We're done playing nice-nice. We've all been through the ringer and we're really tired of playing games.
In the next contract, all rates need to go up,but those two need a big improvement.
Where do we stand now...now that Delta plus is gone?
I don't get why the contract is taking so long. They were working on this well before the amendable date. Seems like we know where the deficiencies are. let's march forward and take back what was stolen from us under bankruptcy, the threat of bankruptcy, and liquidity shortfall.
Surely Kirby gets it right? We're done playing nice-nice. We've all been through the ringer and we're really tired of playing games.
10-23-2019, 03:14 PM
#80
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Originally Posted by baseball
The 757 pay is too low, as is the 767 300. Both of those need to come up.
In the next contract, all rates need to go up,but those two need a big improvement.
Where do we stand now...now that Delta plus is gone?
I don't get why the contract is taking so long. They were working on this well before the amendable date. Seems like we know where the deficiencies are. let's march forward and take back what was stolen from us under bankruptcy, the threat of bankruptcy, and liquidity shortfall.
Surely Kirby gets it right? We're done playing nice-nice. We've all been through the ringer and we're really tired of playing games.
In the next contract, all rates need to go up,but those two need a big improvement.
Where do we stand now...now that Delta plus is gone?
I don't get why the contract is taking so long. They were working on this well before the amendable date. Seems like we know where the deficiencies are. let's march forward and take back what was stolen from us under bankruptcy, the threat of bankruptcy, and liquidity shortfall.
Surely Kirby gets it right? We're done playing nice-nice. We've all been through the ringer and we're really tired of playing games.
Most are not willing to do anything at the moment to have the company take notice. JMO
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