Agreement in Principle
#461
Ummmmm........it should be pretty obvious to you why you aren’t working on reserve at present. Just wait, though...after thousands of lambs go to slaughter toward the end of the year you will enjoy pleeeeeenty of quality time as the crew desk biotch.
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Cancelling most of the displacements is huge... LTD increase is nice, first class DH nice, and hoping the reserve improvements are good. Achieving gains at a time like this should be celebrated. Finding a way to keep everybody on property is a monumental task in this kind of revenue environment.
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It is absolutely obvious and I think it will be quite some time, even with furloughs before anyone becomes a "biotch".
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Cancelling most of the displacements is huge... LTD increase is nice, first class DH nice, and hoping the reserve improvements are good. Achieving gains at a time like this should be celebrated. Finding a way to keep everybody on property is a monumental task in this kind of revenue environment.
Have you ever wondered why management never changes their playbook? It's because the same plays keep working.
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Cancelling most of the displacements is huge... LTD increase is nice, first class DH nice, and hoping the reserve improvements are good. Achieving gains at a time like this should be celebrated. Finding a way to keep everybody on property is a monumental task in this kind of revenue environment.
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I’m going out on a limb here, but I bet those items had already been agreed too in the ongoing negotiations. They’ve just been re-wrapped to buy the votes.
Cancelling most of the displacements is huge... LTD increase is nice, first class DH nice, and hoping the reserve improvements are good. Achieving gains at a time like this should be celebrated. Finding a way to keep everybody on property is a monumental task in this kind of revenue environment.
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The contract also says we can pick up premium pay trips, whether or not pilots are on furlough. That’s what my contract says. You may not have been displaced to a lower pay category, but some of us have, and we have already taken pay cuts.
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I believe that this environment will trigger more consolidation and the only airlines we are likely to acquire are JB, AS, F9, or Spirit. If so, those airlines are unlikely to have large numbers of pilots on furlough, if any. The short term pain would be nothing compared to finding out that you are being merged in with a 2015 JB/AS/F9/Spirit hire because our 3,000 furloughs are being jammed in at the bottom. Most of those airlines have a MUCH younger pilot group. I personally, don’t want to end up in a merger where the pilot right ahead of me was hired years after me at another airline, and is 7 years younger than me, and then multiply that by 1,500 or more pilots.
I’d also like to be at an airline that if things change quickly, we can respond quickly, or we can let the other airlines just take that market share permanently possibly. Southwest has come out publicly saying they want to do just this.
I’m not saying I’m voting yes, because I haven’t seen it. But I don’t believe this is a B scale TA because air travel is about 1/3 of what it was 8 month ago, in case you didn’t know. We have less flying and we need to understand that. I respect your wanting to defend the contract, but its the ability to adapt that is going to be required to still be working at the same airline in 5 years.
We have two choices...maintain the status quo, which was a contract not designed for a worldwide travel stopping pandemic, or negotiate some things that benefit us in the long-term. I am willing to see what the details are, and if we all vote no, that’s fine, but we have to understand that it may give us a few more dollars now, but a few years from now it may cost us a lot more.
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