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09-16-2020, 10:49 AM
#12
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My displacement is possibly cancelled because I’m SFO 777 FO and was displaced in 20-07D. Don’t know if I’ll be one of the 130 or not. But I do keep my pay rate. Yes, there are lots of questions that need to get answered, but right now I’m a yes. This could change though...
09-16-2020, 10:49 AM
#13
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Originally Posted by dingdong
As someone in the bottom 3rd on the chopping block, looks like a lot of positives in this LOA for everyone, especially another PVSL for the 50+ crowd and furlough protections for at least another 9 months.
But right now all I can see is that little LEGO captain having a conniption fit over "my money... my money!!!"
But right now all I can see is that little LEGO captain having a conniption fit over "my money... my money!!!"
09-16-2020, 10:53 AM
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A lot of interesting parts of it.
I would guess a lot of displaced CAs would be making about what they made before the TA when you combine them keeping their CA rate and the hour reduction. Work less to make similar seems like a descent trade.
I appears from my first read that this basically eliminates the "I already took a pay cut" argument.
I would guess a lot of displaced CAs would be making about what they made before the TA when you combine them keeping their CA rate and the hour reduction. Work less to make similar seems like a descent trade.
I appears from my first read that this basically eliminates the "I already took a pay cut" argument.
09-16-2020, 10:54 AM
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It’s very possible I’m reading it wrong, but I am seeing a 63 hour mpg if we are above 50% of our block hours for a given bid period. 10% of 70 hrs MPG = 7, so unless we dip below 50% block hours, in which case many more than 3900 of us are f-ed, I’m seeing a 10% cut. Obviously the lines are to be slimmer than usual, but that is going to be the case either way.
if you are senior in your BES and were not displaced, I could totally understand a NO vote… If you are in the top 2/3rds and got a displacement letter, I’m having a hard time seeing how this is a net negative in pay for (the proverbial) you.
Please tell me if I’ve got that wrong. I’m trying to understand the implications for the entire group
if you are senior in your BES and were not displaced, I could totally understand a NO vote… If you are in the top 2/3rds and got a displacement letter, I’m having a hard time seeing how this is a net negative in pay for (the proverbial) you.
Please tell me if I’ve got that wrong. I’m trying to understand the implications for the entire group
09-16-2020, 10:57 AM
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Also maybe all of us should read, digest, actually run the numbers for our families etc before deciding.
After my first read I'm undecided. There are A LOT of factors here that all affecty family. I would guess there is only a VERY small number of our pilots that could justify an automatic vote based off what I am seeing here.
After my first read I'm undecided. There are A LOT of factors here that all affecty family. I would guess there is only a VERY small number of our pilots that could justify an automatic vote based off what I am seeing here.
09-16-2020, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
...I appears from my first read that this basically eliminates the "I already took a pay cut" argument.
***Just came in and read this thread. I have not yet read the letter.
09-16-2020, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by mmm123
Easy no for me, but will watch the continued race to bankruptcy and Insler rise in the alpa organization.
09-16-2020, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
How can you reach that conclusion? Pre-Covid I made 83-90 hours per month. Now, 73. With this agreement, apparently ~52.
***Just came in and read this thread. I have not yet read the letter.
***Just came in and read this thread. I have not yet read the letter.
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