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#441
Really, is that so? Another interesting take, of course substantiated by all of the evidence you provide for that opinion. You have all of the answers it seems, so long as it runs parallel to a political ideology. Just wondering, do you also apply the same logic to BLM? What about Antifa?
https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/marxis...zy-la-enclave/
https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/marxis...zy-la-enclave/
#442
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If you’ve never had a chief pilot at a flight school or a 135 ask for a blow job in exchange for getting hired, or a DPE ask for sex in exchange to pass a check ride, then kindly excuse yourself from the discussion.
Most of the female pilots I know have had both and more than once. Discrimination in this industry wasn’t that long ago, and word got around. Glad to see someone doing something about it.
Most of the female pilots I know have had both and more than once. Discrimination in this industry wasn’t that long ago, and word got around. Glad to see someone doing something about it.
Also, most female pilots I know have not had either of those things happen. In fact I’m willing to bet occurrences like that are a tiny fraction of interactions between male evaluators or interviewers with female applicants, and in line with the percentage of those types of interactions in any other workplace outside of aviation (no data to back that up, but I’ve never heard of some rampant BJ seeking culture in the checkride world, and I don’t buy it). And, I assume each time it occurred with all the female pilots you know, the checkride/interview was stopped, cops called, and the said perp arrested, or supervisors informed, etc? If I went to go take a check ride or interview and some dude told me I had to blow him to pass, that’d be a pretty easy problem set to deal with for me, regardless of my gender.
#443
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Because United announced they're hiring based on race and gender.
#445
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Dear self appointed Hall monitor(s), this is a place for people to openly exchange ideas. They used to do this on college campuses until speakers were run off, or assaulted, by arbiters of truth who decided what others were ‘allowed’ to hear.
Apparently the Mods don’t share your need to ‘cancel’ whatever discussions you deem disagreeable. If hearing other perspectives upsets you, then I suggest you stop reading and go to your safe space. In the meantime, if it’s ok with you, other less sensitive APC participants might like to continue having an adult conversation.
#446
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If you’ve never had a chief pilot at a flight school or a 135 ask for a blow job in exchange for getting hired, or a DPE ask for sex in exchange to pass a check ride, then kindly excuse yourself from the discussion.
Most of the female pilots I know have had both and more than once. Discrimination in this industry wasn’t that long ago, and word got around. Glad to see someone doing something about it.
Most of the female pilots I know have had both and more than once. Discrimination in this industry wasn’t that long ago, and word got around. Glad to see someone doing something about it.
Not saying it never happened but to say ‘most, and more than once” sounds like a gross exaggeration. I’ve been in the business for decades and have many female pilot friends. Never heard it. Not to say there aren’t desperate low-life’s out there, but don’t think men are the only ones that use sex as a tool, or weapon, or that it’s limited to aviation.
“One academic study showed that as many as 40 percent of sexual assault charges are false”.
https://apnews.com/article/b5c40b513...app1%26hl%3Den
The difference today being that woman are to be believed without question which could be scary if you’re a male instructor or check airman with United’s ambitious recruitment and training plans. It only takes one accusation or harassment complaint these days...
Last edited by tyler durden; 04-10-2021 at 03:16 PM.
#447
UAL introduces a LONG term program that will allow them to groom future unionized employees as they see fit from the get-go. Said employees will have an astonishing amount of enthusiasm for Mother U once they get their "Wings with Elroy".
Todd goes along with it. He has his eyes on a desk in Willis or, HERNDON. (What a joke, but that's another thread)
Pilots on APC wax political and use all their big "woke" words in a fit of PC umbrage. Spittle and snot fly into space! Pilots forget that all they do is fly the shiny machines.
Rush smiles in his grave.
45 pages!
Kirby and the board laugh.
Todd goes along with it. He has his eyes on a desk in Willis or, HERNDON. (What a joke, but that's another thread)
Pilots on APC wax political and use all their big "woke" words in a fit of PC umbrage. Spittle and snot fly into space! Pilots forget that all they do is fly the shiny machines.
Rush smiles in his grave.
45 pages!
Kirby and the board laugh.
#448
Do you believe that men are inherently better pilots than women? I'm guessing (and would agree) the answer is no.
So why are there 10 male pilots at United for every 1 female? Because the pool of candidates to work at a major airline currently only allows for that.
The announcement by United isn't a quota to hire a certain number of female mainline pilots. It's a goal to have a certain percentage of female/minority candidates into their Aviate pipeline program by breaking down barriers to entry and partnering with non-traditional sources for recruiting.
Down the line this will eventually expand and improve the hiring pool for pilots at major airlines, where pilots will continue to be hired based on skills and qualifications.
So why are there 10 male pilots at United for every 1 female? Because the pool of candidates to work at a major airline currently only allows for that.
The announcement by United isn't a quota to hire a certain number of female mainline pilots. It's a goal to have a certain percentage of female/minority candidates into their Aviate pipeline program by breaking down barriers to entry and partnering with non-traditional sources for recruiting.
Down the line this will eventually expand and improve the hiring pool for pilots at major airlines, where pilots will continue to be hired based on skills and qualifications.
See Kara Hultgreen.
https://www.cmrlink.org/data/sites/8...RPT09-0695.pdf
#449
UAL introduces a LONG term program that will allow them to groom future unionized employees as they see fit from the get-go. Said employees will have an astonishing amount of enthusiasm for Mother U once they get their "Wings with Elroy".
Todd goes along with it. He has his eyes on a desk in Willis or, HERNDON. (What a joke, but that's another thread)
Pilots on APC wax political and use all their big "woke" words in a fit of PC umbrage. Spittle and snot fly into space! Pilots forget that all they do is fly the shiny machines.
Rush smiles in his grave.
45 pages!
Kirby and the board laugh.
Todd goes along with it. He has his eyes on a desk in Willis or, HERNDON. (What a joke, but that's another thread)
Pilots on APC wax political and use all their big "woke" words in a fit of PC umbrage. Spittle and snot fly into space! Pilots forget that all they do is fly the shiny machines.
Rush smiles in his grave.
45 pages!
Kirby and the board laugh.
#450
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What about mentoring a child of any race or sex, and letting them know they're capable of ANYTHING? Then helping them down their dream path? With the right mentoring/motivation, kids don't need someone that looks like them to look up to!
Last edited by Windshear; 04-10-2021 at 05:58 PM.
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