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#1641
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#1642
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From: MEC Chairman, Snack Basket Committee
Hey all, just a reminder to keep it classy, please. Wishing people to be fired and banished from society is over the top.
#1644
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I’m always interested how the group that believes the science on the vaccine was rushed & insufficient is convinced the science is conclusive on Ivermectin (or whatever the present month’s flavor happens to be.) Yeah, I know- India’s case rate dropped. End of story, right? Sure, as long as the only data points you look at are India’s approval of a Ivermectin & their case rate trend. You can’t isolate for variables like lockdown & mask mandates. You can’t look at countries in South America that have been using it much longer & still experiencing infection spikes regardless.
Is the India timeline interesting? Yes. Worthy of further investigation? Sure. But that science hasn’t been done yet. I’m talking peer reviewed, double blind, by reputable researchers with supporting studies & broad acceptance by the scientific community. Saying “A happened then B followed” isn’t conclusive, and it isn’t science. It’s a hypothesis. As obvious as you believe your common sense conclusions to be, you’re only looking at what you can see; and any number of unseen factors can be distorting your view. There is a process for determining causality, and without that process you’re just guessing.
Is the India timeline interesting? Yes. Worthy of further investigation? Sure. But that science hasn’t been done yet. I’m talking peer reviewed, double blind, by reputable researchers with supporting studies & broad acceptance by the scientific community. Saying “A happened then B followed” isn’t conclusive, and it isn’t science. It’s a hypothesis. As obvious as you believe your common sense conclusions to be, you’re only looking at what you can see; and any number of unseen factors can be distorting your view. There is a process for determining causality, and without that process you’re just guessing.
This is a peer reviewed study. Your “experts” at the FDA, CDC, WHO, and NIH have all done their own studies on Ivermectin and NONE of them will report their data as a whole. They will only show a snippet of their whole study. The only data they report will also say “high probability of bias” in their very own report. I guess that means case closed. Listen to the “experts” who won’t even release all of their findings. Seems legit.
Lockdowns are irrelevant. If the vaccines were even in the same universe as what was originally advertised… people could literally be being peeing on each other and the numbers shouldn’t be as high as what they are. Using lockdowns as an excuse is laughable.
#1645
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A friend sent me a screenshot of a message they received on ccs.ual.com saying that on September 9 formal notification will be issued that various destinations will require vaccination for entry.
Here's a link to the screenshot I got: https://imgur.com/a/Tx5qE3J
I'm wondering if this is a legitimate message others have received? Also, do you know if this applies only to pilots? Or will it apply to pax too?
TY!
Here's a link to the screenshot I got: https://imgur.com/a/Tx5qE3J
I'm wondering if this is a legitimate message others have received? Also, do you know if this applies only to pilots? Or will it apply to pax too?
TY!
#1646
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A friend sent me a screenshot of a message they received on ccs.ual.com saying that on September 9 formal notification will be issued that various destinations will require vaccination for entry.
Here's a link to the screenshot I got: https://imgur.com/a/Tx5qE3J
I'm wondering if this is a legitimate message others have received? Also, do you know if this applies only to pilots? Or will it apply to pax too?
TY!
Here's a link to the screenshot I got: https://imgur.com/a/Tx5qE3J
I'm wondering if this is a legitimate message others have received? Also, do you know if this applies only to pilots? Or will it apply to pax too?
TY!
#1648
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You must have just joined the conversation. Of course nothing will be approved unless it comes from Pfizer or somewhere else with major financial backing.
This is also why Pfizer is getting special treatment with their authorization despite Israel saying it’s only 39% effective. The Mayo Clinic says it’s 42% effective. Meanwhile, moderna has less side effects and is over 70% effective. Moderna to my knowledge hasn’t even discussed boosters on a large scale yet.
Moderna has deep pockets, but they don’t have Pfizer pockets. All data and evidence shows Moderna kicks Pfizer’s butt. Yet, for some reason Pfizer is getting all the approvals right now including their boosters right around the corner.
It’s truly remarkable because for the last year and a half big pharma has put profits aside for the common good and strictly only cared about their fellow man.
This is also why Pfizer is getting special treatment with their authorization despite Israel saying it’s only 39% effective. The Mayo Clinic says it’s 42% effective. Meanwhile, moderna has less side effects and is over 70% effective. Moderna to my knowledge hasn’t even discussed boosters on a large scale yet.
Moderna has deep pockets, but they don’t have Pfizer pockets. All data and evidence shows Moderna kicks Pfizer’s butt. Yet, for some reason Pfizer is getting all the approvals right now including their boosters right around the corner.
It’s truly remarkable because for the last year and a half big pharma has put profits aside for the common good and strictly only cared about their fellow man.
#1649
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I’ve yet to see an “anti” vaxxer laugh at or wish ill will on someone with Covid, but I’ve lost count of the number of pro vax aholes making straight up sociopathic statements lately. Like this douche.
#1650
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Again... what will United consider as a “fully vaccinated “ pilot when it comes to restricted segments?
Looks like we have another variant on the way and that probably will include the 4th jab like Israel is suggesting... moving goal post
The union better get in front of this and I am not talking about no darn 13 hrs pay. Where’s their line in the sand? What hill will they die on in regards to the vaccine mandate?
Introducing variant “Mu”
https://www.businessinsider.com/covi...-and-dc-2021-9
Looks like we have another variant on the way and that probably will include the 4th jab like Israel is suggesting... moving goal post
The union better get in front of this and I am not talking about no darn 13 hrs pay. Where’s their line in the sand? What hill will they die on in regards to the vaccine mandate?
Introducing variant “Mu”
https://www.businessinsider.com/covi...-and-dc-2021-9
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