Vacancy Bid 2204-V2
02-13-2022 | 06:03 AM
#271
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The contract stipulates that unfilled vacancies expire after 92 days from the award date for the vacancy bid in which they occurred. So, The November vacancy award unfilleds expire on Wednesday and the December vacancy award unfilleds expire on March 16th.
The contract requires that any vacancy bid be open for a minimum of 10 days.
So those two things together mean that you could theoretically see the next vacancy bid posted as late as Mar 6th (or Mar 4th since that is a Friday), but that would be cutting it really close.
So, I would expect this week or next at the very least
03-22-2022 | 11:15 AM
#272
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I think it has more to do with timing than bases. I believe (i don't know andy) that he must have upgraded at the beginning of a growth wave where that growth made his holding a line rather quick. We are still growing by 180 NB in the next 3 years but I don't know if that is enough for a newhire to upgrade after 12 months and to hold a line in a year. Chainsaw math if we keep hiring 1500 a yr that newhire would have 4500 below him on the list at his 3 yr anniversary. Current reliable lineholder 73 CA is around 8500 on our list of 13000 today... a new contract, better reserve rules, 73 doing some atlantic flying + the ability to cram your schedule with 1 and 2 day domestic, or a severe lack of qualified applicants or lack of LCA's slowing hiring could turn this on a dime. It is a catch 22... if they fix the contract correctly it should incentivize the senior people to flow to where they should be but if they don't the temporary juniority of certain positions COULD continue.
Given current growth as it stands, excluding TDY considerations, what DOH is currently at the G-line for 73 SFO CA & 73 DCA CA?
Last edited by FifiPilot; 03-22-2022 at 11:26 AM.
03-22-2022 | 11:34 AM
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03-22-2022 | 04:16 PM
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I see you are asking a lot of similar questions at a few airlines. I completely understand looking at all your options but DOH and what you could hold 6 months ago vs next Nov will be very different. It is a fluid situation with growth, training, fuel price/retirements, etc. United does their seniority list a little differently. We update it once a year which is the number that I am throwing out there. I think our most junior hire is really 14400 on that list that will be updated July 1st. Overnight on July 2 they will be 13900 give or take on that new list. We also have a few hundred of early buy outs from our covid TA that will drop off the list in the next year or so. Active pilots is probably around 13300. The 737 will be the best bet for fast lineholding and seniority progression based on growth IMO.
03-22-2022 | 04:46 PM
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