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Old 12-26-2021, 05:40 PM
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I guess I don’t see it as entitled. I’m not trying to get sweet layovers, or commutable lines, or deadheads with lots of soft time, or trips with LCAs that get bought. I literally want to fly my MPG as quickly as possible, and go home to my family. 5 hours per day is a terrible batting average, especially when you’ve got a 89 hour month. Put me in coach. I’ll get 8 hours of block time a day if I can manage it. I’ve got 4 young kids and all I want is time with them. I’ve tried dropping and trading trips that CCS says are legal and I have yet to get a trip traded (I’m trading into open time trips or trips that other guys want to drop). I’ve used BidNav without any success (asked for low credit line, got 89 hours). Maybe this is part of the learning curve? Perhaps this is just the way it is, and my expectations of time away from work are unrealistic? I’m still trying to figure it out, but if I’m away from home 18 days a month, my wife is going to make me find a different job.
If you sit higher than 65% on the gline it will be very tough to get a line more than 15 days off when the line credit average is 85 hours or higher. In my experience when being lower than 60-65% it became much easier to get less credit and more days off. The bottom of the seniority list in a BES will generally get hammered with work when the line credit average is 85 hours or greater.

With that said “average credit per day >6 hours” works pretty well but you have to learn how to use it amongst all the other commands in PBS. I used bid nav until it taught me enough about the system to do it on my own then canceled it. I recommend doing the same.
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Old 12-26-2021, 06:49 PM
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If you’re using Bidnav, you not receiving your preferences is simply a consequence of your seniority. It’s moving pretty quickly, though, so it won’t last forever.

Given the minimal, if any time, new hires are spending on reserve, you may also want to look at the potential of bidding reserve until your seniority allows you a better line. If you’re commuting from a larger airport with lots of flights to your domicile or covered airports, you’d probably be at home much more than with a line.
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Old 12-26-2021, 09:08 PM
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We are moving to base next month.
Things will improve once you move to base, be patient. Sitting short call reserve from home can be a beautiful thing! Also don’t lose your center/purpose with your wife. It can be tough being home with kids on a parent, but your job isn’t a walk in the park either and you’re clearly doing your best to balance it all. Hearing you say “if I’m away from home 18 days a month, my wife is going to make me find a different job” is concerning to me. What happens if she decides that 16 days away is too much? What about 14? See what I’m getting at?
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Old 12-27-2021, 03:40 AM
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I see a future divorce for you. Wives should understand and be part of the solution, not harass you for working. Jeez!!
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Old 12-27-2021, 04:21 AM
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I see a future divorce for you. Wives should understand and be part of the solution, not harass you for working. Jeez!!
Is 'Beaver Hunter' a euphemism for something else? Or have I been watching too much Rick and Morty late nights?
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Old 12-27-2021, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Cougs View Post
Perhaps this is just the way it is, and my expectations of time away from work are unrealistic? I’m still trying to figure it out, but if I’m away from home 18 days a month, my wife is going to make me find a different job.
It is an unrealistic expectation if you are junior in your BES because everyone senior to you wants max credit for min time. #1 advice - talk to your wife and reset expectations. If 18 days per month is intolerable for a few years then look for another job. #2 - look at taking a different job in the airline if you have the qualifications. If you have a passion for teaching and want to live near DEN - consider competing for TK instructor. If that is not appealing then reserve in base can be a hit/miss gamble - on the slow months you may never fly - on the busy months you will be gone every work day.
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Old 12-27-2021, 07:31 AM
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I see a future divorce for you. Wives should understand and be part of the solution, not harass you for working. Jeez!!
No kidding. Mine remembers the bankruptcy contract years and the wonderful LCC rules quite well, while commuting. Others got that plus furlough letters. I suppose it’s all about instant gratification these days. Maybe throwing an app in with SWA could fulfill it.
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Old 12-27-2021, 07:38 AM
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You said you’re moving to base-that’ll help a lot.

Even being junior, it shouldn’t be that hard to get schedules where you’re flying four 4 days per month. Once you’re living in base, you’ll be working 16 days/mo and gone for 12 nights/mo. Until you get more senior I don’t think you’re going to do much better than that.

As another poster said, fly the trips starting with redeyes-not fun for you but gives you a lot more family time.



Maybe try 3-4 bid groups with only 2 commands:
-a Set command for max credit
-award work

Over the 3-4 bid groups start the set command with 75 then relax it to 78, 83, then 85 hours.
-make sure you put bid groups after the 4th one just in case it fails.

Hope it works out for you and your family.
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Old 12-27-2021, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Cougs View Post
I guess I don’t see it as entitled. I’m not trying to get sweet layovers, or commutable lines, or deadheads with lots of soft time, or trips with LCAs that get bought. I literally want to fly my MPG as quickly as possible, and go home to my family. 5 hours per day is a terrible batting average, especially when you’ve got a 89 hour month. Put me in coach. I’ll get 8 hours of block time a day if I can manage it. I’ve got 4 young kids and all I want is time with them. I’ve tried dropping and trading trips that CCS says are legal and I have yet to get a trip traded (I’m trading into open time trips or trips that other guys want to drop). I’ve used BidNav without any success (asked for low credit line, got 89 hours). Maybe this is part of the learning curve? Perhaps this is just the way it is, and my expectations of time away from work are unrealistic? I’m still trying to figure it out, but if I’m away from home 18 days a month, my wife is going to make me find a different job.
Youu should have done your research beforehand. Your schedule is what your seniority can hold. You might want to look for another company or different line of work.
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Originally Posted by Cougs View Post
I guess I don’t see it as entitled. I’m not trying to get sweet layovers, or commutable lines, or deadheads with lots of soft time, or trips with LCAs that get bought. I literally want to fly my MPG as quickly as possible, and go home to my family. 5 hours per day is a terrible batting average, especially when you’ve got a 89 hour month. Put me in coach. I’ll get 8 hours of block time a day if I can manage it. I’ve got 4 young kids and all I want is time with them. I’ve tried dropping and trading trips that CCS says are legal and I have yet to get a trip traded (I’m trading into open time trips or trips that other guys want to drop). I’ve used BidNav without any success (asked for low credit line, got 89 hours). Maybe this is part of the learning curve? Perhaps this is just the way it is, and my expectations of time away from work are unrealistic? I’m still trying to figure it out, but if I’m away from home 18 days a month, my wife is going to make me find a different job.
Im super curious to know what your background is? What were you doing before getting at UAL that gave you a guaranteed 18 days off a month?

I mean you can get 18 days a month off once you get some seniority but expecting it as a new hire is unrealistic. Sounds like it’s time to ditch the old ball and chain or find another job.
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