Agreement In Principle
05-30-2022 | 02:54 PM
#611
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That was the joke. 61 pages of speculation and the only ones that actually know anything aren’t posting here. We’ll know what is in it when it is time for us to know, but until then, people getting worked up about something we know nothing about is entertaining. APC is good for a laugh, gossip, and sound financial advice, but facts just get in the way of a good rant and have no place here.
05-30-2022 | 03:03 PM
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That was the joke. 61 pages of speculation and the only ones that actually know anything aren’t posting here. We’ll know what is in it when it is time for us to know, but until then, people getting worked up about something we know nothing about is entertaining. APC is good for a laugh, gossip, and sound financial advice, but facts just get in the way of a good rant and have no place here.
05-30-2022 | 03:21 PM
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They can save their comments until we have something to talk about. Right now they are stirring the pot off of rumors. Most of my delta friends don't understand our contract or worse have taken a nugget of truth from our contract and extrapolated out a much worse system. They also get fed a steady stream of corporate rah rah that they are the best, our brand brings a 20% premium, and one big happy family that keeps them complacent against blatant scope violations. We are weaker as pilots if we let the ignorant or misinformed keep stirring the pot.
05-30-2022 | 05:12 PM
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From: The GF of FUPM
For MOST of my career, the leaks were always accurate. Time after time. You, of course, may choose to believe what you wish. Rainbows, full Retro, QOL gains, the whole nut. But when the AIP is published you may look like a schmuck.
Wallach stood in the cockpit way back when and told us to our faces that the leaks were all BullSchidt and that the contract the MEC had proposed was "industry-leading. It's all there" His exact words. I didn't believe him then. I don't believe them now, especially after what the ToddFord wives delivered. Skepticism is healthy. Keeps them honest.
Wallach stood in the cockpit way back when and told us to our faces that the leaks were all BullSchidt and that the contract the MEC had proposed was "industry-leading. It's all there" His exact words. I didn't believe him then. I don't believe them now, especially after what the ToddFord wives delivered. Skepticism is healthy. Keeps them honest.
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05-30-2022 | 05:35 PM
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From: 787 Captain
For MOST of my career, the leaks were always accurate. Time after time. You, of course, may choose to believe what you wish. Rainbows, full Retro, QOL gains, the whole nut. But when the AIP is published you may look like a schmuck.
Wallach stood in the cockpit way back when and told us to our faces that the leaks were all BullSchidt and that the contract the MEC had proposed was "industry-leading. It's all there" His exact words. I didn't believe him then. I don't believe them now, especially after what the ToddFord wives delivered. Skepticism is healthy. Keeps them honest.
Wallach stood in the cockpit way back when and told us to our faces that the leaks were all BullSchidt and that the contract the MEC had proposed was "industry-leading. It's all there" His exact words. I didn't believe him then. I don't believe them now, especially after what the ToddFord wives delivered. Skepticism is healthy. Keeps them honest.
This leak is pretty anemic in comparison to previous AIP leaks.
05-31-2022 | 06:01 AM
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05-31-2022 | 06:11 AM
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The current leaks are an attempt to frame the agreement as economically weak and enevenly distrubuted among the pilots. I doubt that 'those in charge' are the source.
We should be expecting significant improvements in scope, ltd, sl, scheduling, vacation pay, training pay, etc... The lack of leaks in those areas (especially scope) is meaningful.
We should be expecting significant improvements in scope, ltd, sl, scheduling, vacation pay, training pay, etc... The lack of leaks in those areas (especially scope) is meaningful.
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