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Old 05-27-2022 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Augerin
So why in the world is your bar so low. No wonder we can't negotiate anything worth a damm.
You have no idea where his bar is. How about you wait until we actually see a TA before getting all combative and douchey.
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Old 05-27-2022 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
You have no idea where his bar is. How about you wait until we actually see a TA before getting all combative and douchey.
because…..APC…..that’s why.
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Old 05-28-2022 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by drywhitetoast
Now why would you want to do that? You are on APC and speculation is far more entertaining.
All the douchebaggery ŕ la the COVID MOU is coming the the fore again. It certainly should be no surprise….. 🙄
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Old 05-28-2022 | 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
United ALPA managed to negotiate lower raises than Delta gave (as in no negotiations) its non-union employees. It's only the highest inflation environment in US history. Winning. With friends like ALPA, who needs enemies?

Were you a drama major in college? Delta gave it's non-union employees a 4% raise in March. Is THAT what you are referring to? I'll bet we top that, chief. And highest inflation in US history? Not even close. Maybe since the 1980s, and many economists say March was the peak. It's all downhill from here. Howsabout we see what's in the contract before we start trashing ALPA. jeez, Margie.
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Old 05-28-2022 | 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by guppie
Were you a drama major in college? Delta gave it's non-union employees a 4% raise in March. Is THAT what you are referring to? I'll bet we top that, chief. And highest inflation in US history? Not even close. Maybe since the 1980s, and many economists say March was the peak. It's all downhill from here. Howsabout we see what's in the contract before we start trashing ALPA. jeez, Margie.
With regard to the 4% raise, the DL non cons have actually received 2 x 4% raises since we received our last pay raise in Jan 2019, then the 40 minutes of boarding pay (@50% hourly rate) per leg.

DALPA is telling us that when combined, it’s effectively a 24% raise for the FA’s.
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Old 05-28-2022 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
United ALPA managed to negotiate lower raises than Delta gave (as in no negotiations) its non-union employees. It's only the highest inflation environment in US history. Winning. With friends like ALPA, who needs enemies?

and why did they give those raises, nevermind the fact that you aren’t even talking about pilots?
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Old 05-28-2022 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
United ALPA managed to negotiate lower raises than Delta gave (as in no negotiations) its non-union employees. It's only the highest inflation environment in US history. Winning. With friends like ALPA, who needs enemies?

we get the best work rules , we tighten our scope and we get a raise
now Delta gives up more scope in order to get a bigger raise
then we get the delta plus 5 percent or whatever it may be above Delta

who is the winner genius ?
keep given more scope till you only fly domestic
While United is flying 230 WBs all over the Oceans
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Old 05-28-2022 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Augerin
So why in the world is your bar so low. No wonder we can't negotiate anything worth a damm.
I prefer to “wind the clock” before passing judgement. We have no idea what’s in the proposed AIP/TA. All this is just white noise.

You have no idea where my “bar is set”.
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Old 05-28-2022 | 06:24 AM
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I hope you bros in unity realize this is one of the few 100k+ jobs remaining where you actually have to go to work. That has to be worth something. Everyone else is now telecommuting and doing flexible 2 days/week in the office. That's a QOL gain way better than paid commutes. Imagine being 22 right now. Getting high, smashing babes, 200k/yr starting offers to sit at home and code. Oh, but you could be an airline pilot instead.
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Old 05-28-2022 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by fadec
I hope you bros in unity realize this is one of the few 100k+ jobs remaining where you actually have to go to work. That has to be worth something. Everyone else is now telecommuting and doing flexible 2 days/week in the office. That's a QOL gain way better than paid commutes. Imagine being 22 right now. Getting high, smashing babes, 200k/yr starting offers to sit at home and code. Oh, but you could be an airline pilot instead.
we actually have to go to work, but those 22 yr olds sitting at home coding are actually working as well. In fact they work 20 hours a day. Why do you think the tech companies had all that free crap at the office? Free lunch, massages, basketball courts, etc? So those 22 yr olds would stay at the office and code (pre Covid of course) all day and night.
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