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Old 06-13-2022 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
I believe that a huge catalyst for this AIP/TA is to be able to stockpile pilots for Kirby’s overall plan. We’re trying to hire pilots so that they don’t go elsewhere. The pilot shortage is real!!! We are getting over 500 airplanes in 5 years…. Most of which are growth.
no stockpiling - we need them. Line values are high and reserve coverage generally blow for the fleets that are flying (i.e. not 777)
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Old 06-13-2022 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
no stockpiling - we need them. Line values are high and reserve coverage generally blow for the fleets that are flying (i.e. not 777)
Have you seen 777 awards for June? They have a ton of 80+ hour lines.

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Old 06-13-2022 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
no stockpiling - we need them. Line values are high and reserve coverage generally blow for the fleets that are flying (i.e. not 777)
I agree with you that we currently need them, I believe that we will be slightly over staffed for a brief period. But the airplane deliveries will shortly take care of that. With the P&Ws coming back on the 777, we are not as over staffed as we were 6-8 months ago.
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Old 06-13-2022 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Have you seen 777 awards for June? They have a ton of 80+ hour lines.

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look at the LPA’s. For July, except for a few specific categories the LPA’s are high and in line with other fleets. But there are always going to be high time lines even with low LPA’s.
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Old 06-14-2022 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
no stockpiling - we need them. Line values are high and reserve coverage generally blow for the fleets that are flying (i.e. not 777)
This AIP will be a big fat NOTHINGBURGER anyone that thinks different hasn't been around the biz very long. It will appealing to the middle guys and that's all ALPA needs for it to pass. SAD but true.
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Old 06-14-2022 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mytime2025
This AIP will be a big fat NOTHINGBURGER anyone that thinks different hasn't been around the biz very long. It will appealing to the middle guys and that's all ALPA needs for it to pass. SAD but true.
It’s clearly a push to provide pilot support for United Next. I don’t really see it as sad but necessary. Kirby knows it and needs it.
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Old 06-14-2022 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Skip0927
it was the last thing i expected, esp given the current economic outlook of America
That's because ALPA caved. Don't expect sh*t in this deal. Industry leading is just BS talk from both sides to sell it. Until ALPA brings a meaningful deal to the table I'm a big NO vote.
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Old 06-14-2022 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mytime2025
That's because ALPA caved. Don't expect sh*t in this deal. Industry leading is just BS talk from both sides to sell it. Until ALPA brings a meaningful deal to the table I'm a big NO vote.
Always love hearing from the chest thumpers ahead of time. They will proudly join the pseudo 75% who swear they voted NO once this thing passes by 55%.
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Old 06-14-2022 | 04:05 PM
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30-plus years of listening to the apologists finally pushed me over the edge.

"Oh, the economy won't support that! Oh, the passengers, Oh the company won't agree to that! Oh, you've got to see it from the company's point of view, Oh, my neighbor only makes half of what I make, Oh, most people would KILL to be airline pilots, Oh, I'd do this job for FREE, Oh, we've got to wait for a better opportunity so keep your powder DRY! Oh, Spirit will kill us! Oh, look what Contract 2000 did! It KILLED UNITED!! Oh.....(please insert whatever lame reason you like, here). I'll be over there -----> Vomiting. Spinless pilots make me sick.

Bring on the Chest Thumpers!
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Old 06-14-2022 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
I'll be over there -----> Vomiting. Spinless pilots make me sick.

Bring on the Chest Thumpers!
All due respect do you even have a vote on this? Didn’t you take the early out?
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