5% Pay Raise Effective Dec 1st
11-10-2022 | 09:18 PM
#31
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I hope the company doesn't use this as an excuse saying we already paid you 5%. This raise was coming and was already coming on things the pilot group did during Covid. The way they say it's a downpayment makes it seem as though they are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.
11-10-2022 | 10:16 PM
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From: Gear slinger
For what it’s worth they claim there are additional unspecified QOL improvements getting baked in. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Maybe that’s something, maybe it’s not.
I’ll still be at the picket but I also haven’t forgotten that it was ALPA that negotiated and approved *all* of those concessions. I don’t really buy their faux outrage when 4 months ago they were insinuating we were being paranoid that any of those clauses could possibly come back to bite us, a sub inflationary raise was the best possible offer and selling out on RJ and instructor scope was totally fine in the best negotiating environment in airline history.
I’ll still be at the picket but I also haven’t forgotten that it was ALPA that negotiated and approved *all* of those concessions. I don’t really buy their faux outrage when 4 months ago they were insinuating we were being paranoid that any of those clauses could possibly come back to bite us, a sub inflationary raise was the best possible offer and selling out on RJ and instructor scope was totally fine in the best negotiating environment in airline history.
11-11-2022 | 02:25 AM
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2 quarters early, but no normal person thinks this is part of the compensation package for TA2, except for probably the company. People just have to be mad about something.
11-11-2022 | 02:43 AM
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Gotta love how some of you can spin this as being worse than the company waiting 6 months. For your own sake, try to remember what an adversarial management team looks like. This isn’t it. SK isn’t Santa clause, but his interests are more closely aligned with ours than any CEO I’ve seen in my decades.
Leave nothing on the table, but let that blood pressure settle a little bit.
Leave nothing on the table, but let that blood pressure settle a little bit.
Take the money & demand an excellent contract. That’s the game.
11-11-2022 | 04:38 AM
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Agree with this. This is contractually guaranteed money that we’re getting a little early. From the day we signed that pandemic LOA it was obvious this 5% was going to face “creative” interpretations, but the company already tried to bury it into a TA & we killed it. If they try it again, neither the pilots- nor the union this time- will be fooled. Since contract rates are expressed as a percentage, it will be very easy to spot if DOS increase exceeds inflation or not.
Take the money & demand an excellent contract. That’s the game.
Take the money & demand an excellent contract. That’s the game.
11-11-2022 | 05:52 AM
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To conflate it with contract negotiations might very well be a status quo violation of RLA.
we should let BQ have that narrative anyway.
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