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Old 03-28-2023, 07:16 AM
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There can always be a multi-pronged attack with regards to union leverage. The loss of UAL NH/Indoc pilots to Delta is probably where the major forces are amassed as far as pressure on management. And to think, it's not even a "tactic" that the union controls. It's management scoring an "Own goal" in the World Cup finals! OOOps!

Who wudda thunk?


Management, are you listening????
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Old 03-28-2023, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by EwrRocks View Post
Leverage lies with the negotiating party that is most satisfied with the status quo. I think this is a rare case, especially in aviation, where both sides won’t be satisfied with status quo. Both sides have a lot to lose with this dragging out, not to mention Delta has now given us a mediated benchmark.
As long as you haven’t gone out & spent your retro check using a high-interest credit card, the company is going to start feeling the pain before you do.
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Old 03-28-2023, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear View Post
As long as you haven’t gone out & spent your retro check using a high-interest credit card, the company is going to start feeling the pain before you do.
Perfectly said 👏
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Old 03-28-2023, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Midsomer View Post
You sound like those FA’s that complain about the pay gap between their job and pilots. You want CEO pay? Go be a CEO. Your argument is irrelevant. Kirby gets what is alloyed to him by the BOD.
Famous statement by a FA.

How long were your classes? Hmmm… if I spent another few weeks at the training center, I could have been a pilot
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As long as you haven’t gone out & spent your retro check using a high-interest credit card, the company is going to start feeling the pain before you do.
So buying a Cirrus with my Diner’s Club wasn’t a great idea?
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni View Post
So buying a Cirrus with my Diner’s Club wasn’t a great idea?
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Old 03-28-2023, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by evodiver View Post
Don't be so naive.

The company doesn't have to make reserve suck so bad but they choose to.

They could allow us to trip trade, but they refuse to.
100% agree. Ironically our contract has such big holes in it, they have a fair amount of leeway when it comes to reserve.

The first time I sat reserve as a half winger was FAR better than the second time almost a decade later as NBCA. Same contract.
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Old 03-29-2023, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tmtbiker View Post
100% agree. Ironically our contract has such big holes in it, they have a fair amount of leeway when it comes to reserve.

The first time I sat reserve as a half winger was FAR better than the second time almost a decade later as NBCA. Same contract.


and same Neg Com (sad)
but thank God a different MEC
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New chairman update. Doesn’t sound good, again
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Old 03-31-2023, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by qltep View Post
New chairman update. Doesn’t sound good, again
After the last year, they’ll be tightly measured in the way they deliver any good news. They’re no longer just managing a negotiation, they’re also managing the sour mood of a tired pilot group that has shown its taste for recalls.
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