United needs to lower the aviate requirements further. No one is staying at the regionals, not even for aviate. Why stay at aviate, when you can leave the regionals for spirit or frontier, and then get called for american/delta/SW in a matter of less than a year? when you have a 3+ year flow time for aviate? AND you have to upgrade to captain? lol. Or just go to spirit, leave aviate for a year, and then come back to united way quicker?

Aviate at this point is a joke.

They should remove all the fine print BS like accidentally missing a phone call from screw scheduling while on reserve more than 0 times in 5 years, remove the CA upgrade requirement, and other things people wouldn't stay for.

 

flow programs are indirectly or directly for keeping people at regionals. Not for moving up and out. (In my opinion)

 

thats my point, is that no one is staying at the regional. the program needs to change for the better (give SOME incentive for people to keep staying at the regionals, instead of using the LCC's as a brdige to the legacies), and get with today's times. it's outdated.

 

Because just like time immemorial, "run the clock offense" has always been a sure play when it comes to airline hiring cycles. The USAF does the same thing on our side, in spite of a hemorrhaging of people. And they always get proven right, broken clock twice a day type of thing.

The bias here is that the plurality of hiring since 2016 has been done by people who either don't remember the lost decade, or were too young to be affected by it, so they malign the proposition of a reversion to the mean, as fiction or moot, or sour grapes from the older or timing-disfavored. Meh, we'll see how well that ages.

It's also the reason why mainline isn't anywhere near the level of operational desperation to absorb FFD feed into mainline labor costs, in spite all the hand wringing about the walls crumbling around the regionals, according to the APC oracles on here. Run the clock offense. It just works.