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07-11-2023 | 09:10 AM
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Looks like there is trouble brewing down in Arizona.
https://liveandletsfly.com/united-av...y-allegations/
https://liveandletsfly.com/united-av...y-allegations/
07-11-2023 | 09:14 AM
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Looks like there is trouble brewing down in Arizona.
https://liveandletsfly.com/united-av...y-allegations/
https://liveandletsfly.com/united-av...y-allegations/
07-11-2023 | 03:23 PM
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I cannot speak for Aviate but my new hire training was excellent and I believe almost all of my many classmates would say the same. I do not recall any DEI initiatives affecting or taking precedence over quality of instruction in new hire training.
07-11-2023 | 05:49 PM
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Looks like there is trouble brewing down in Arizona.
https://liveandletsfly.com/united-av...y-allegations/
https://liveandletsfly.com/united-av...y-allegations/
07-11-2023 | 09:20 PM
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Stop the presses!! Some kid is whining anonymously on Reddit! What a steaming pile of ****. Homie is complaining that his training isn’t fast enough. I hope this person only flys with regional lifers and 320 guys that “got ****ed” in the merger, then complain about their 3 month delay getting CFI.
Aviate IS a steaming pile of crap. Kids are being promised the moon and then given the shaft. They are signing on the dotted line and incurring significant debt, only to be told to toe the line.
There isn’t much ‘Good Leading The Way’ going on in PHX.
07-11-2023 | 09:24 PM
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Matthew is an avid traveler who calls Los Angeles home. Each year he travels more than 200,000 miles by air and has visited more than 135 countries. Working both in the aviation industry and as a travel consultant, Matthew has been featured in major media outlets around the world and uses his Live and Let's Fly blog to share the latest news in the airline industry, commentary on frequent flyer programs, and detailed reports of his worldwide travel.
However, ask any current UAL mentor/coach about how organized the coaching resources are and it sounds like this story tracks.
I wouldn’t take that rant as the gospel but clearly Aviate is running like a EWR weather event with no Learjet in sight.
07-11-2023 | 10:07 PM
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Not to disregard this story but what I know about the media is that they get it wrong virtually every time. A guy with the resume above may only be able to parrot what they read on Reddit.
However, ask any current UAL mentor/coach about how organized the coaching resources are and it sounds like this story tracks.
I wouldn’t take that rant as the gospel but clearly Aviate is running like a EWR weather event with no Learjet in sight.
However, ask any current UAL mentor/coach about how organized the coaching resources are and it sounds like this story tracks.
I wouldn’t take that rant as the gospel but clearly Aviate is running like a EWR weather event with no Learjet in sight.
Full disclosure. I’ve been that Aviate mentor/ coach and would state unequivocally that Aviate is NOT the program for anyone desiring to be a UAL pilot.
07-12-2023 | 04:54 AM
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Therein lies the problem.
Aviate IS a steaming pile of crap. Kids are being promised the moon and then given the shaft. They are signing on the dotted line and incurring significant debt, only to be told to toe the line.
There isn’t much ‘Good Leading The Way’ going on in PHX.
Aviate IS a steaming pile of crap. Kids are being promised the moon and then given the shaft. They are signing on the dotted line and incurring significant debt, only to be told to toe the line.
There isn’t much ‘Good Leading The Way’ going on in PHX.
07-12-2023 | 02:45 PM
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It is if you quit your job with living expenses for the timeline they give and then the timeline extends significantly. I’d be really curious to see how much they warn people upfront that the timelines may get extended and how much flexibility they demand from the students (IE if you get a part time job waiting tables to pay your rent while you’re there an extra 6 months do they get angry when you occasionally need to scrub a flight for scheduling?)
Theres not enough info imo. This could either be really whiney people with no clue how this industry works or they could have some legitimate grievances depending on how the company is running it.
Theres not enough info imo. This could either be really whiney people with no clue how this industry works or they could have some legitimate grievances depending on how the company is running it.
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