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#1442
#1444
HR interviews are BS. Any process that skews inordinately toward individuals who paid $1K+ to a “non-affiliated” contractor for prep services is a scam. It’s a continuous loop of interviewers and prep contractors feeding each other standards. The interviewers get used to hearing the polished product the prep guys create & start to believe that’s what a “qualified” candidate sounds like. Anybody who actually organically has 12 good stories off the top of his head about a time they had a “difficult interaction with a coworker” is probably an @hole & horrible to fly with. Most of the time, people’s evaluation of whether the interview process was “fair” correlates directly to whether or not they got the job.
For the record, bought the prep (& the sim time back then) & got the job. Measurably the best investment I ever made. Don’t punish yourself just because the system sucks.
For the record, bought the prep (& the sim time back then) & got the job. Measurably the best investment I ever made. Don’t punish yourself just because the system sucks.
#1445
HR interviews are BS. Any process that skews inordinately toward individuals who paid $1K+ to a “non-affiliated” contractor for prep services is a scam. It’s a continuous loop of interviewers and prep contractors feeding each other standards. The interviewers get used to hearing the polished product the prep guys create & start to believe that’s what a “qualified” candidate sounds like. Anybody who actually organically has 12 good stories off the top of his head about a time they had a “difficult interaction with a coworker” is probably an @hole & horrible to fly with. Most of the time, people’s evaluation of whether the interview process was “fair” correlates directly to whether or not they got the job.
For the record, bought the prep (& the sim time back then) & got the job. Measurably the best investment I ever made. Don’t punish yourself just because the system sucks.
For the record, bought the prep (& the sim time back then) & got the job. Measurably the best investment I ever made. Don’t punish yourself just because the system sucks.
#1446
Pilot
Joined: Dec 2014
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#1448
Not sure I subscribe to this. Does the HR interview filter out bad pilots? No. Does it find the best pilots? No. But by and large it filters out people who don’t give a ******* about having the opportunity that is before them. 99% of ATP’s can be taught to fly the airplane the way we want them to fly it. A lower number than 99% of ATP’s can properly integrate into our culture.
And I 100% agree with what you’re saying about identifying personalities, but you’re gonna find out a lot more about someone by asking them about their last vacation, the car they’re rebuilding, the soccer team they coach, or their goal to visit every MLB stadium- whatever- than asking them to parrot back a handful of pre-rehearsed TMAAT monologues that may or may not be complete BS.
If you shot the sh— with me for 5 minutes in the cockpit you’d learn more about me than you would in 3 hours of me reciting TMAAT responses that I paid someone $1K to teach me how you like to hear them. It’s a weak way to learn about someone there’s just no incentive structure to change it.
#1449
Doesn’t filter out the bad & doesn’t find the best but it’s a good system? Does filtering out the people who “don’t GAS” mean “identifying the people who won’t pay $1K-$2K to increase their odds”? Pretty screwed up way to determine who your people are if you ask me.
And I 100% agree with what you’re saying about identifying personalities, but you’re gonna find out a lot more about someone by asking them about their last vacation, the car they’re rebuilding, the soccer team they coach, or their goal to visit every MLB stadium- whatever- than asking them to parrot back a handful of pre-rehearsed TMAAT monologues that may or may not be complete BS.
If you shot the sh— with me for 5 minutes in the cockpit you’d learn more about me than you would in 3 hours of me reciting TMAAT responses that I paid someone $1K to teach me how you like to hear them. It’s a weak way to learn about someone there’s just no incentive structure to change it.
And I 100% agree with what you’re saying about identifying personalities, but you’re gonna find out a lot more about someone by asking them about their last vacation, the car they’re rebuilding, the soccer team they coach, or their goal to visit every MLB stadium- whatever- than asking them to parrot back a handful of pre-rehearsed TMAAT monologues that may or may not be complete BS.
If you shot the sh— with me for 5 minutes in the cockpit you’d learn more about me than you would in 3 hours of me reciting TMAAT responses that I paid someone $1K to teach me how you like to hear them. It’s a weak way to learn about someone there’s just no incentive structure to change it.
#1450
On Reserve
Joined: Jun 2022
Posts: 87
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HR interviews are BS. Any process that skews inordinately toward individuals who paid $1K+ to a “non-affiliated” contractor for prep services is a scam. It’s a continuous loop of interviewers and prep contractors feeding each other standards. The interviewers get used to hearing the polished product the prep guys create & start to believe that’s what a “qualified” candidate sounds like. Anybody who actually organically has 12 good stories off the top of his head about a time they had a “difficult interaction with a coworker” is probably an @hole & horrible to fly with. Most of the time, people’s evaluation of whether the interview process was “fair” correlates directly to whether or not they got the job.
For the record, bought the prep (& the sim time back then) & got the job. Measurably the best investment I ever made. Don’t punish yourself just because the system sucks.
For the record, bought the prep (& the sim time back then) & got the job. Measurably the best investment I ever made. Don’t punish yourself just because the system sucks.
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