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04-19-2025 | 03:38 PM
#181
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I think 40 years is sorta that magic number. Ideally the 777 can last much longer due to the fact that there will be a large amount of spare parts available due to the production time and amount of aircraft. it is still a very real part of many airlines fleets but it is reaching the end especially a -200ER. The real problem is that United has to decide if hauling cargo is important to them. Because the only replacement for a 777-200 is an A350-900… or used 777s. The 757 and 767 will go before. That airframe is at end of life around the world. There are lots of spare parts but a 787-9 replaces a 767-300/400 and an A321 gets the domestic 757 and we have yet to see but based on Euro airlines flying the 321LR it does replace a 757-200 on an Atlantic crossings even without the XLR performance.
04-19-2025 | 03:47 PM
#182
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SK literally said we are going to continue hiring.. The planned hiring for the rest of the year is smaller than Q1 because that’s how it was planned since last year. It’ll be something like a class a month IIRC.
Do you post anything positive or have any positive outlook? Idk what your malfunction is, but we’re still forecasted to make a profit in a recession. That should create some breathing room for you
Do you post anything positive or have any positive outlook? Idk what your malfunction is, but we’re still forecasted to make a profit in a recession. That should create some breathing room for you
Here to give reality check to those who think the last 4 years are the norm and who haven't been through a downturn.
04-19-2025 | 05:44 PM
#183
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There is no history of US top tier mainline carriers flying aircraft for 40 years. It’s never happened. Northwest Airlines flew their DC-9’s to 35 years and probably ended up regretting it. I can’t even imagine opening up a 40 year old 767 for an invasive D Check. As far as comparing a 35 year old mainline 767 that flies around the clock 24/7 with a C5, N641UA has over 130,000 hrs on her, your average USAF C5 flys about 80 hrs a month. Guy/gals please do your research before posting on here, UAL is absolutely ready to replace every single 767 and 777-200 with a 787, they just cant get them fast enough…I get what you guy want to happen, I lived 14 years of my life on the 75/76, still my favorite, but time marches on, sadly.
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04-19-2025 | 07:01 PM
#184
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Kirby said at a recent standards meeting that we'd probably get 100 more 787s before we replaced any 767s, and the 767-300/400 and 757-300 will probably fly until 2035. Even if we did, that's great because the 787 pays more than the 767. He also said that in addition to the 150 firm orders (6 of which have been delivered) we would probably take all 100 options we currently have.
04-19-2025 | 07:44 PM
#185
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Glad we can count on your negativity despite a positive forecast though 👍
04-20-2025 | 02:20 AM
#186
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If those airplanes were flying 2 legs a day, every day, they would’ve been retired decades ago, and the USAF is not a for profit operation.
04-20-2025 | 02:23 AM
#187
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Kirby said at a recent standards meeting that we'd probably get 100 more 787s before we replaced any 767s, and the 767-300/400 and 757-300 will probably fly until 2035. Even if we did, that's great because the 787 pays more than the 767. He also said that in addition to the 150 firm orders (6 of which have been delivered) we would probably take all 100 options we currently have.
04-20-2025 | 07:56 AM
#188
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There is no history of US top tier mainline carriers flying aircraft for 40 years. It’s never happened. Northwest Airlines flew their DC-9’s to 35 years and probably ended up regretting it. I can’t even imagine opening up a 40 year old 767 for an invasive D Check. As far as comparing a 35 year old mainline 767 that flies around the clock 24/7 with a C5, N641UA has over 130,000 hrs on her, your average USAF C5 flys about 80 hrs a month. Guy/gals please do your research before posting on here, UAL is absolutely ready to replace every single 767 and 777-200 with a 787, they just cant get them fast enough…I get what you guy want to happen, I lived 14 years of my life on the 75/76, still my favorite, but time marches on, sadly.
04-20-2025 | 03:55 PM
#189
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Joined: Mar 2012
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Oldest 767 (641UA) is 34 years old, built in 1991…….Oldest 777 (777UA) is 30 years old. Those airplanes both want to be retired, tomorrow if convenient. Approximately 134 787-9/10’s on firm order. Got one on Thursday, check the MX ramp at Dulles. Its the big shiny one..
After doing the heavy MX on the 767-300's and -400's, they'll be around for some time. Next black swan event? Is it here now? No idea. But the 777A's aren't going anywhere.
04-22-2025 | 07:46 AM
#190
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And when you start believing in leaders blindly and not looking at the facts and environment its called Stockholm syndrome.
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