agree… dont see the reversers deploying… it looks to me like a good transition to landing, a late power reduction to idle ,followed by no spoiler deployment and trying to flare it off… spoilers were apparently not in the cross check.

 

I respectfully disagree. I think the fact that Kirby has advertised this on the pandering level makes it fair game for all involved. They did this to themselves and now need to be held accountable so companies learn that pandering like this does not always yield positive results.

 

You guys don't have a spoilers up or speedbrake call out? That's interesting to learn. 3 airlines for me and all have had that call out.

 

isn’t that the exact reason we had a bent 767 on landing? Didn’t the LCA manually deploy the speed brake instead of just pushing the thrust levers up and going around?

I might be mistaken

 

I wish something could be learned about pandering from our recent eff ups, but one does not beget the other as much as you really want it to. You really show your ignorance on this. I mean just use some critical thinking. When was all the DEI BS announced to the degree it has been recently? In that time, do you think it has made a massive difference in safety? I'm in no way condoning some of our recent eff ups, but the DEI trope gets really old. As many times as a middle aged white dude skids off the runway, has a pax in the driver's seat or bounces down the runway, somehow brains with a few synapses missing go to DEI.

You said it yourself - advertising. Have you seen UA class photos? Oh crap, that doesn't jive with your narrative of ignorance. Have standards been cut the past couple years? Yeah. They've been cut for everyone, not only certain demographics - see my previous class photo comment. I mean you're at AA right, who forever has been flowing large amounts - no interview, nothing. You certainly don't have any legs to be standing on about standards gate-keeping for the industry.

 

That's correct. Only callouts if something that should happen doesn't. For example, "No reverse left engine". If everything is normal, we stay quiet but of course are required to visually verify.

 

Even with the excellent quality of the recording it is too difficult to visually tell if the cowl is transitioning to reverse but the visible water vapor coming from the runway is usually a tell tale sign that these guys did in fact cycle the reversers which would also have deployed the speed brakes which we can just barely make out in the video. I don't know UAL procedures but I am willing to bet that this is a big no-no over there.

 

Hopefully the Bunkie yelled Flight Path.

 

Derp........

 

All depends on the bounce...Big bounce go around, small bounce it settles down. We have had on numerous occasions, a normal landing with the spoilers armed, but they did not deploy. The airplane has a strong tendency to
head back up. Manually deploying them, just as you would if the auto system was differed so no auto spoilers on landing. We do sim training on bounced landings and when to go around.