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Old 05-14-2025 | 06:51 AM
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Obviously good news for everyone on property. Especially good for Airbus pilots, except for maybe those who never wish to be Global…….but certainly there will always be some domecile where NB will be non global I presume.

I’m just kind of losing track of actual numbers. Since some news reports are repeats, or the reporting method misleads people to think more orders have taken place when in reality just a benchmark in the acquisition process has been reached.

My scoreboard says: 37 A321 New Engine Option (neo) in service

135 A321neo are on order

50 A321XLRare on order

Which makes 222.

Are these 40 A321neo inclusive of this or in addition to and now the count should be 262?
That would make United Airbus fleet larger than that of JetBlue’s
Makes you wonder how they will handle the XLR global category. Will it be like CLE/MCO are currently for the 73? Like DCA and EWR would be global, but IAH and DEN aren't? Curious to see how it turns out.
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Old 05-14-2025 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by khergan
Makes you wonder how they will handle the XLR global category. Will it be like CLE/MCO are currently for the 73? Like DCA and EWR would be global, but IAH and DEN aren't? Curious to see how it turns out.
Maybe they bring the 320 to MCO/CLE and have those pilots fly the Atlantic stuff like they do now on the 737?
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Old 05-14-2025 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by khergan
Makes you wonder how they will handle the XLR global category. Will it be like CLE/MCO are currently for the 73? Like DCA and EWR would be global, but IAH and DEN aren't? Curious to see how it turns out.
I’m not sure if I’m over-explaining it based on you question, but yes that is how it works. Kind of like LAX 756 not being global when EWR/IAD are. It won’t be limited to just the XLR, either. One global trip in the bid packet on the NEO or XLR for a category makes everyone global in that category.
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Old 05-14-2025 | 01:39 PM
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I’m not sure if I’m over-explaining it based on you question, but yes that is how it works. Kind of like LAX 756 not being global when EWR/IAD are. It won’t be limited to just the XLR, either. One global trip in the bid packet on the NEO or XLR for a category makes everyone global in that category.
LAX 756 has been flying both DUB and OPO and doing the same in June. Certainly the XLR can fly to SA from LAX. Who knows really where they will send them, but all 50 flying EUR I'm not sure about that.
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Old 05-14-2025 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
Obviously good news for everyone on property. Especially good for Airbus pilots, except for maybe those who never wish to be Global…….but certainly there will always be some domecile where NB will be non global I presume.

I’m just kind of losing track of actual numbers. Since some news reports are repeats, or the reporting method misleads people to think more orders have taken place when in reality just a benchmark in the acquisition process has been reached.

My scoreboard says: 37 A321 New Engine Option (neo) in service

135 A321neo are on order

50 A321XLRare on order

Which makes 222.

Are these 40 A321neo inclusive of this or in addition to and now the count should be 262?
That would make United Airbus fleet larger than that of JetBlue’s
Yep its 262. It was 222 and now and they added the 40 on the United Fleet website, so its 262. I double counted some already delivered planes.
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Old 05-14-2025 | 01:43 PM
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LAX 756 has been flying both DUB and OPO and doing the same in June. Certainly the XLR can fly to SA from LAX. Who knows really where they will send them, but all 50 flying EUR I'm not sure about that.
You missed the point. LAX 756 has had many periods over the last decade that they were non-global. So despite being a longer range aircraft, they were flying domestic only. Not a big deal for a line holder, but a significant difference for a reserve.

The 320 categories will be no different. Some will be global, some won’t, but sneak in a global trip and bam, global reserve rules.
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Old 05-14-2025 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
You missed the point. LAX 756 has had many periods over the last decade that they were non-global. So despite being a longer range aircraft, they were flying domestic only. Not a big deal for a line holder, but a significant difference for a reserve.

The 320 categories will be no different. Some will be global, some won’t, but sneak in a global trip and bam, global reserve rules.
You're probably right. I haven't been on reserve in over 25 years so I really have no idea how that works nowadays.
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Old 05-14-2025 | 01:56 PM
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Yep its 262. It was 222 and now and they added the 40 on the United Fleet website, so its 262. I double counted some already delivered planes.

That's a lotta nice, new Airbii. I've always expected to upgrade to Guppy CA based on fleet size and trip quality. The 319s/320s weren't ETOPs capable and did a lot of RJ style flying. Now I'm wondering if the Guppy fleet will go that way while the 321s take all the best flying. The plot keeps thickening and I'm going to reassess my outlook before I chuck a rock.
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Old 05-14-2025 | 04:34 PM
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The 320 categories will be no different. Some will be global, some won’t, but sneak in a global trip and bam, global reserve rules.
But the global reserve rules can only be used to salvage a global trip. If Chicago 320 covers three trips a week to Lisbon or something, that won’t have a big impact on the guys in the foxhole.
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Old 05-14-2025 | 04:51 PM
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Did Qatar just cut in line for the 787? Looks possible

might need 350 and 330 now
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