Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > United
Leather Jackets dead on May 28th >

Leather Jackets dead on May 28th

Search

Notices

Leather Jackets dead on May 28th

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-17-2025 | 12:07 PM
  #81  
Line Holder
10M Airline Miles
5 Years
100 Countries Visited
 
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,375
Likes: 56
Default

Originally Posted by Spesiellsporing
You be you. I’ve got more things on my plate to be concerned about than whether the dude or dudette I’m sharing the cockpit with is sporting the uniform crisply with the ID visible on the outermost garment.
Yup. The attempts to equate the way one wears the costume to their abilities as a pilot are beyond silly. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen the management wannabe in full parade dress uniform keep people in back miserable without using the APU air, with a slick tie, doing a PA from the galley. There is ZERO correlation between the 2.
Reply
Old 05-17-2025 | 12:52 PM
  #82  
off weekends (if Reserve)
 
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 1,161
Likes: 97
Default

Originally Posted by Clearedtocross
Mr. Willfull Noncompliance slipped thru the cracks…

yeah thats not me but......I wore a suit and am pretty confident about how I looked in it, you may have found my pants too tight...buts thats subjective to you. It's a suit not a uniform.

Look it man.....you are passionate about the uniform. We all have things we are passionate about. Like Great...just don't be all upset that not everyone else is. That doesn't mean there is willful non compliance, it doesn't mean they want to look like slobs........ it's just means it occupies less thought in their brain than it does for you.
For me my passion is very clear and easy to understand informative PA's, to the standard that someone who speaks English as a second language with limitations could understand. Now I realize, most people aren't paying attention to announcements. That being said I feel when deadheading it is rare that someone really impresses me with their PA's. It's ok I'm realistic. Im not going to loose my mind because not everyone else shares my passion.
Reply
Old 05-17-2025 | 01:36 PM
  #83  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 3,634
Likes: 209
Default

Originally Posted by Grumble
Same type that wear long sleeve shirts….. “oh great this guys gonna be dbag.”
💯… filler
Reply
Old 05-17-2025 | 01:51 PM
  #84  
Line Holder
10M Airline Miles
5 Years
100 Countries Visited
 
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,375
Likes: 56
Default

Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
💯… filler
Im not a fan of the long sleeve shirt either, but this is a silly conclusion, IMO. A much more accurate conclusion about the uni would be 1) No APLA pin on the tie=dbag. 2) Wears hat to the urinal in ops=dufus.
Reply
Old 05-17-2025 | 03:46 PM
  #85  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 637
Likes: 51
From: Doggy
Default

Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
Im not a fan of the long sleeve shirt either, but this is a silly conclusion, IMO. A much more accurate conclusion about the uni would be 1) No APLA pin on the tie=dbag. 2) Wears hat to the urinal in ops=dufus.
3) Places a towel underneath their seatbelt.
Reply
Old 05-17-2025 | 04:01 PM
  #86  
ugleeual's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,042
Likes: 47
From: 767/757 CA
Default

They wear long sleeve shirts to cover their tattoos…
Reply
Old 05-17-2025 | 06:07 PM
  #87  
Line Holder
1M Airline Miles
5 Years
50 Countries Visited
 
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 864
Likes: 37
From: Guppy
Default

Originally Posted by Spoilers Deploy
one of the most amazing accomplishments of airline flying is two pilots who have never met before can do so at 5am with complex issues such weather and maintenance and fly a high performance jet across the country. How is trust high level with two strangers?

Trust is “artificial” with the commonality of the FM/FOM/UPA, company ID and uniform.

if one of dudes at 5am was using the wrong FM something would be suspect.

This is why pilots who don’t care about the uniform or have a negative attitude create resentment.
I'm sorry, did you really just argue that uniform has anything to do with the trust that two pilots can have with one another? That is absolutely nonsensical and laughable to compare to the actual things that generate that trust like shared training and SOP.

If you've looked at a pilot wearing the uniform "wrongly" (however you'd define that) and made a judgment about your ability to fly with them, you're the problem, not them.
Reply
Old 05-17-2025 | 06:50 PM
  #88  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Dec 2023
Posts: 527
Likes: 126
Default

Originally Posted by 11atsomto
yeah thats not me but......I wore a suit and am pretty confident about how I looked in it, you may have found my pants too tight...buts thats subjective to you. It's a suit not a uniform.

Look it man.....you are passionate about the uniform. We all have things we are passionate about. Like Great...just don't be all upset that not everyone else is. That doesn't mean there is willful non compliance, it doesn't mean they want to look like slobs........ it's just means it occupies less thought in their brain than it does for you.
For me my passion is very clear and easy to understand informative PA's, to the standard that someone who speaks English as a second language with limitations could understand. Now I realize, most people aren't paying attention to announcements. That being said I feel when deadheading it is rare that someone really impresses me with their PA's. It's ok I'm realistic. Im not going to loose my mind because not everyone else shares my passion.
Totally missing the point! It’s not at all a matter of what I’m passionate or happen to care about, it’s about us following company policy & procedures. If there’s something I don’t like, I don’t just go off and do my own thing, or worse yet, try to convince others that they should not follow it too. If you don’t like something, work to get it fixed. If you don’t want to do the work to get it fixed, then better be following it.

Last edited by Clearedtocross; 05-17-2025 at 07:06 PM.
Reply
Old 05-17-2025 | 06:56 PM
  #89  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Dec 2023
Posts: 527
Likes: 126
Default

Originally Posted by Spesiellsporing
You be you. I’ve got more things on my plate to be concerned about than whether the dude or dudette I’m sharing the cockpit with is sporting the uniform crisply with the ID visible on the outermost garment.
Wearing the uniform the way we’re supposed to isn’t about “you be you” or “me be me” - that’s exactly the point and why it’s called a “uniform”. This is simple stuff, not too hard to follow.
Reply
Old 05-17-2025 | 07:30 PM
  #90  
off weekends (if Reserve)
 
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 1,161
Likes: 97
Default

Originally Posted by Clearedtocross
or worse yet, try to convince others that they should not follow it too.
Is that what I am doing?
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
GunshipGuy
Hangar Talk
9
03-11-2009 05:29 PM
Radials Rule
Hangar Talk
11
02-05-2008 11:28 PM
dcpilot
Major
1
11-19-2007 06:19 AM
HercDriver130
Regional
54
09-24-2007 05:46 PM
Flea Bite
Cargo
7
04-27-2006 08:51 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices