737 vs 320 for new hire and future progress
08-25-2025 | 11:47 AM
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The Rolls Royce engine deal was signed in 2009. We paid cash up front to lock in a price for the engines, which is why we've been holding on to them because the 777s can't use the same engines. The same engines today would be 50% higher in cost, so they are a smoking deal.
08-25-2025 | 12:41 PM
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The Rolls Royce engine deal was signed in 2009. We paid cash up front to lock in a price for the engines, which is why we've been holding on to them because the 777s can't use the same engines. The same engines today would be 50% higher in cost, so they are a smoking deal.
More time on wing, more efficiency.
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08-26-2025 | 07:40 AM
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I know Kirby is a higher authority but I've within the last 2 months flown with a handful Willis Tower pilots. All said the A350 is a smoke and mirrors show to keep Boeing in check for prices. Something like it's cheaper to keep them on the books than to break the deal.
Just where I was coming from on that.
08-26-2025 | 08:09 AM
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I know Kirby is a higher authority but I've within the last 2 months flown with a handful Willis Tower pilots. All said the A350 is a smoke and mirrors show to keep Boeing in check for prices. Something like it's cheaper to keep them on the books than to break the deal.
Just where I was coming from on that.
Just where I was coming from on that.
08-26-2025 | 08:53 AM
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I know Kirby is a higher authority but I've within the last 2 months flown with a handful Willis Tower pilots. All said the A350 is a smoke and mirrors show to keep Boeing in check for prices. Something like it's cheaper to keep them on the books than to break the deal.
Just where I was coming from on that.
Just where I was coming from on that.
EVERYTHING is smoke and mirrors until it’s painted, fueled, and sitting at the gate with an MRD on the printer.
08-26-2025 | 11:38 AM
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I know Kirby is a higher authority but I've within the last 2 months flown with a handful Willis Tower pilots. All said the A350 is a smoke and mirrors show to keep Boeing in check for prices. Something like it's cheaper to keep them on the books than to break the deal.
Just where I was coming from on that.
Just where I was coming from on that.
08-27-2025 | 04:24 AM
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The A350 is definitely just a negotiation tool that the company can use at this point….
There isn’t a need to bring those frames onboard yet as the 772 which are getting long in tooth, the 77W are still fairly young as they were late/end of the line fire sale built frames….
Once there is a clear picture of the 77X certification, we will get a clear picture on what will happen with the A350 order…
There isn’t a need to bring those frames onboard yet as the 772 which are getting long in tooth, the 77W are still fairly young as they were late/end of the line fire sale built frames….
Once there is a clear picture of the 77X certification, we will get a clear picture on what will happen with the A350 order…
10-14-2025 | 02:13 PM
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Not to re-stir the pot, but there seems to be not necessarily be consensus on the OP's question. The discussion about aircraft deliveries leaves me a bit confused as to growth/progression over the next few years. As a Spirit guy starting next month, the 'bus has appeal to me. I want to end up in DEN (live SLC) ASAP and prolly finish out WB FO on the west coast, or maybe NB upgrade. I've got 8, maybe 10 years left...so little time, so much to do. 
I'll reluctantly give up my sushi table if the guppy is the better route, but I guess I'm still not clear that's the case based on the discussion here. Any further thoughts?
I'll reluctantly give up my sushi table if the guppy is the better route, but I guess I'm still not clear that's the case based on the discussion here. Any further thoughts?
10-14-2025 | 02:35 PM
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Not to re-stir the pot, but there seems to be not necessarily be consensus on the OP's question. The discussion about aircraft deliveries leaves me a bit confused as to growth/progression over the next few years. As a Spirit guy starting next month, the 'bus has appeal to me. I want to end up in DEN (live SLC) ASAP and prolly finish out WB FO on the west coast, or maybe NB upgrade. I've got 8, maybe 10 years left...so little time, so much to do.
I'll reluctantly give up my sushi table if the guppy is the better route, but I guess I'm still not clear that's the case based on the discussion here. Any further thoughts?
I'll reluctantly give up my sushi table if the guppy is the better route, but I guess I'm still not clear that's the case based on the discussion here. Any further thoughts?
10-14-2025 | 05:42 PM
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Not to re-stir the pot, but there seems to be not necessarily be consensus on the OP's question. The discussion about aircraft deliveries leaves me a bit confused as to growth/progression over the next few years. As a Spirit guy starting next month, the 'bus has appeal to me. I want to end up in DEN (live SLC) ASAP and prolly finish out WB FO on the west coast, or maybe NB upgrade. I've got 8, maybe 10 years left...so little time, so much to do.
I'll reluctantly give up my sushi table if the guppy is the better route, but I guess I'm still not clear that's the case based on the discussion here. Any further thoughts?
I'll reluctantly give up my sushi table if the guppy is the better route, but I guess I'm still not clear that's the case based on the discussion here. Any further thoughts?
I am NOT a commuter but Im not sure the SLC to SFO will differ much vs SLC to DEN.
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