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Old 10-17-2025 | 09:00 AM
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ORD 787 FO is the most senior. Top 50 can hold the left seat but CHOOSE to stay in the right seat for QOL! Den is a very close 2nd


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Are there plans for an increase in WB flying out of Denver on the 787? I’m guessing it goes very senior.
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Old 10-17-2025 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ni hao
ORD 787 FO is the most senior. Top 50 can hold the left seat but CHOOSE to stay in the right seat for QOL! Den is a very close 2nd
Not sure absolutely all those FOs are choosing to stay. When you can bid 10/20% left seat, I’m thinking a few didn’t have a choice.
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Old 10-27-2025 | 10:53 AM
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New hire here. Just curious about the prospect of WBFO in a future vacancy bid. I know year 1 pay is the same among all fleets, but is there any opportunity to make more $ on WB fleets through open time than NB fleets? 756 included? Just curious if there would be any argument to be made on bidding one of these fleets year 1, if I’d even be able to hold it
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Old 10-27-2025 | 11:03 AM
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New hire here. Just curious about the prospect of WBFO in a future vacancy bid. I know year 1 pay is the same among all fleets, but is there any opportunity to make more $ on WB fleets through open time than NB fleets? 756 included? Just curious if there would be any argument to be made on bidding one of these fleets year 1, if I’d even be able to hold it
You will be on reserve for a long time...not a lot of ways to make extra money.
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Old 10-27-2025 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by kangs
New hire here. Just curious about the prospect of WBFO in a future vacancy bid. I know year 1 pay is the same among all fleets, but is there any opportunity to make more $ on WB fleets through open time than NB fleets? 756 included? Just curious if there would be any argument to be made on bidding one of these fleets year 1, if I’d even be able to hold it
You will not get a WB FO position in under 3-5 years,
potentially longer, after the contract. It has been going far senior to what it used to be due to improved reserve rule requirements and pay increases.

Not to say that you won't get a job as a WB FO but the likelihood of doing that by year 2 is near zero.
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Old 10-27-2025 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kangs
New hire here. Just curious about the prospect of WBFO in a future vacancy bid. I know year 1 pay is the same among all fleets, but is there any opportunity to make more $ on WB fleets through open time than NB fleets? 756 included? Just curious if there would be any argument to be made on bidding one of these fleets year 1, if I’d even be able to hold it
If you want to make money bid the NB. I’ve never done the WB and I understand the QOL is awesome, but the money maker is the guppy. Particularly in a junior base. I’m around 70% ish in the right seat in my base and averaged 140/150 per month. But I hustle and manipulate my schedule a lot.
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Old 10-27-2025 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by khergan
You will not get a WB FO position in under 3-5 years,
potentially longer, after the contract. It has been going far senior to what it used to be due to improved reserve rule requirements and pay increases.

Not to say that you won't get a job as a WB FO but the likelihood of doing that by year 2 is near zero.
Yup, agreed. I'm 19 months in and I'm pretty far from being able to hold WBFO.
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Old 10-27-2025 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by khergan
You will not get a WB FO position in under 3-5 years,
potentially longer, after the contract. It has been going far senior to what it used to be due to improved reserve rule requirements and pay increases.

Not to say that you won't get a job as a WB FO but the likelihood of doing that by year 2 is near zero.
Originally Posted by Turbosina
Yup, agreed. I'm 19 months in and I'm pretty far from being able to hold WBFO.
We will have better idea of how junior WB FO is going to go once vacancy bids for all the 787s arriving are released. I see WB FO getting junior again over the next year.
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Old 10-27-2025 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kangs
New hire here. Just curious about the prospect of WBFO in a future vacancy bid. I know year 1 pay is the same among all fleets, but is there any opportunity to make more $ on WB fleets through open time than NB fleets? 756 included? Just curious if there would be any argument to be made on bidding one of these fleets year 1, if I’d even be able to hold it
WBFO going super junior to new hires is likely a thing of the past once reserve QOL got better in the new contract.

As far as money goes, you’ll have a better chance on NB fleets early on. There’s way more open time, way more pairing falling apart, and way more options to trade. 756 fleets can make good money but the seniority growth is basically stagnant to negative. Not many opportunities to get your foot in the door there and even then the non 764 fleets pay pretty close to the other narrow bodies.
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Old 10-27-2025 | 03:16 PM
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