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Old 09-05-2025 | 04:03 PM
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Congrats! I'll see you there!

Interview 8/13
CJO 8/18
Class date 10/14
Cool man. You Spirit?
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Old 09-06-2025 | 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BusBoi
Cool man. You Spirit?
Answered my own question.

8 weeks between CJO and Class. See you guys Oct 14.
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Old 09-06-2025 | 05:12 AM
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As for training, can anyone post what the typical training footprint looks like? With a 10/14 start I'll be at TK at a minimum over Thanksgiving weekend; about when should I expect to be finished sims? Around end of December?
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Old 09-06-2025 | 05:31 AM
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More likely late Nov. Sims take ~ 1 mth. Thanksgiving off will depend on OE (& who you do it with) since Holidays go senior here (5:15 Add Pay).

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Old 09-06-2025 | 06:44 AM
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Has there been a class drop in a while? Does anyone know if WB has been awarded at all recently or what the wait right now is to get there? (any base) Trying to weigh options at the moment for movement halfway through my career. Thanks!
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Old 09-06-2025 | 07:15 AM
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Has there been a class drop in a while? Does anyone know if WB has been awarded at all recently or what the wait right now is to get there? (any base) Trying to weigh options at the moment for movement halfway through my career. Thanks!
EWR 756 goes really junior and might go to a NH at indoc. If not, you’ll most likely get it on your first or second vacancy bid
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Old 09-06-2025 | 07:16 AM
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Has there been a class drop in a while? Does anyone know if WB has been awarded at all recently or what the wait right now is to get there? (any base) Trying to weigh options at the moment for movement halfway through my career. Thanks!
Widebodies haven't been offered to new hires in 2 years.

The junior FO widebody award on the current widebody vacancy is a late 2022 hire. It's gone really senior since things slowed to a trickle here for about a year. Both widebody FO vacancies and narrowbody CA vacancies have gone very senior lately, however conventional wisdom is that things will be moving again starting probably as soon as November when we're told to expect a large NBCA vacancy. With continued aircraft deliveries coming on a more consistent and predictable schedule, I expect things will rather quickly get back to what it looked like in 2022-23. I'm not predicting new hire CAs, but I think we will have enough WBFO vacancies and NBCA vacancies in the next 6-12 months that anyone who has been on property for more than a year would be able to hold either.

I think a lot of people held off on the NBCAs the last time around thinking things would continue as they had and they may be a little more willing to take it while it's available this time, which would keep it out of the new hire classes.

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Old 09-06-2025 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BusBoi
As for training, can anyone post what the typical training footprint looks like? With a 10/14 start I'll be at TK at a minimum over Thanksgiving weekend; about when should I expect to be finished sims? Around end of December?
Indoc is 2 weeks with the wing ceremony on the Friday of the second week. That following Monday and Tuesday is Initial Fleet Training (IFT).

At this point you might have 4 days to a couple of weeks off. Just depends on the schedule of the instructors and FTDs. During the “break”, you’ll get all the CBTs done, learn flows, and the FMS.

After that, you’ll come back to TK and do all your FTDs and take your SV and PV. After all that, you’ll do FFS where the MV and LOE are done.

A few days off and then OE where you’ll fly 25-30 hours then you’re done.

You’ll get 4-5 days on and 2-3 days off during training along with PS to and from TK if you choose to go home.

PM me if you have any questions!
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Old 09-06-2025 | 10:12 AM
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Also you get paid laundry during training. So don’t drag your stuff back and forth and waste your time off at home doing laundry. There’s at least one local laundry service (it’s been a few years since I’ve done a long stint at TK for a transition course so there may be more) that will pick up and drop off at the front desk. Drop off on your way out the door and pick up when you get back. Submit expense. Easy.
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Old 09-06-2025 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8
Widebodies haven't been offered to new hires in 2 years.

The junior FO widebody award on the current widebody vacancy is a late 2022 hire. It's gone really senior since things slowed to a trickle here for about a year. Both widebody FO vacancies and narrowbody CA vacancies have gone very senior lately, however conventional wisdom is that things will be moving again starting probably as soon as November when we're told to expect a large NBCA vacancy. With continued aircraft deliveries coming on a more consistent and predictable schedule, I expect things will rather quickly get back to what it looked like in 2022-23. I'm not predicting new hire CAs, but I think we will have enough WBFO vacancies and NBCA vacancies in the next 6-12 months that anyone who has been on property for more than a year would be able to hold either.

I think a lot of people held off on the NBCAs the last time around thinking things would continue as they had and they may be a little more willing to take it while it's available this time, which would keep it out of the new hire classes.

Standard caveat that I'm just a guy with a (probably incorrect) opinion.
This is far far from a trickle. This would be considered massive movement for 90% of the last 30 years.
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