‘yes… they closed one of the 04/22 (staggered closure) to allow resurfacing on one/other… but never closed both 04/22 LR during the normal operating hours. 29 was “offered” as an option just like they do now… not required to accept.

 

…yet

How about Andreas Liebitz…….oh that’s right he was an FO.

 

Knock on your hardwood scull pal and pray that never happens here. Wasn’t the first time nor the last.

 

While this doesn’t suprise me, and generally speaking the people I like to fly with the least fall into that category. It is important to note that not everyone coming from a single seat Air Force background is going to be difficult to work with, in fact I would say it is a minority amongst them, it’s just that the most difficult among us usually come from that background so we tend to think it’s everyone but it’s not.

One strange observation I’ve encountered is that when it comes to SIM instructors it’s the opposite: it’s the military guys who are more laid back than their civilian colleagues in my opinion.

 

Kind of my point…the two person Cockpit rule in the US may not be a panacea……and that flight still would have had incident…….but I don’t think the outcome is 150 fatalities.

 

ok. Maybe it’s a tgif thing, not sure I understand the point, Expand a little for a gone at 60 guy?

 

an individual (who I don't see often on this forum) stated that in Europe there are 25 year old Yoga influencers that are also Captains and there are no issues, he asked rhetorically so why is there an issue here?

To which I think it's just worth reminding everyone that there are never any issues until there are incidents or accidents, or stated differently "it works until it doesn't". So just because there has been an absence of something, or a perceived absence of something I don't take that as a diagnostic of its integrity and not a very wise stance to take and we as safety professionals should have a proactive approach to prevention efforts.
To be fair.....Perhaps in the case of Mr.Lubitz while only being 27 and being incredibly low time (by US standards) to be flying an A320.....I'm not sure if inexperience played a part, at least aeronautically since he turned his knowledge of the Flight Guidance control panel into a deadly weapon and became a mass murderer. Rather I do feel that an older and more experienced airman...say that starved through the lost decade and spent 8 years a regional FO to make fast food wages.......might be a little more appreciative of their professional position in life and may not be so vulnerable to mental health issues. Just my opinion.

 

Right. But the missing Malaysian, Air India more recent and just as tragic. Can happen anywhere. Not the case at Sewark obviously.

 

Are you serious? There are plenty of incidents and near misses that are quietly disseminated by the safety committee and company that never go public…Other than maybe becoming a cryptic screen saver. We only see a fraction of them in the safety publication they put out every so often. You think it’s all experienced guys making the blunders and the newbie captains are all saints? You think no rookie mistakes are being made… whether it causes an incident or not?

 

Very much this......