Where are the "official" acceptance numbers?
04-27-2012 | 08:24 AM
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It's not really a matter of "volunteers" - it's a matter of JCBA. While you attempt to blame the individual for the lack of progress in the JCBA - it's not their fault - it's your leadership. Why not pound on your elected rep, you know BIBO like LEC and MEC chairman. Grandstanding does no one any good. Get involved call you elected LEC, MEC reps and tell them to get a JCBA.
04-27-2012 | 08:41 AM
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That's all it takes? I just need to call my reps and tell them to get a JCBA? Who knew. I always thought that a major reason we weren't any closer to a JCBA was because of all of the "volunteers" (on both sides of the airline)who are jumping through their collective a**es to cover all of that 150% flying. These actions mearly tend to mask the company's manpower issues, and are manpower negative.
Hog
Update:
I called my rep, and you were right. He wasn't aware that the L-UAL and L-CAL pilots wanted a JCBA. In his defense he did say he had been made aware of the pilots' need for a JCBA a couple of years ago, but that did not necessarily jibe with the pilots' actions. He specifically mentioned all of the "volunteers" (on both sides of the airline) who are jumping through their collective a**es to cover all of that 150% flying. He said that such actions mearly tend to mask the company's manpower issues, and are manpower negative.
In fact, the MEC and the NC have already approached Smiseck and told him that the pilots want a JCBA, and that we really, really mean it. From what my rep told me, Jeffy just laughed and said, "Have you seen our on-time and completion stats? They're crazy good considering where we are right now. From where I sit, all of the pilots at UCH are happy."
My rep did say something about unionism and individual responsibility and how the individual pilots give the MECs and the JNC leverage. Yada, yada yada... I will keep hammering away at my Rep. I still don't think he believes that we want a JCBA.
Hog
Hog
Update:
I called my rep, and you were right. He wasn't aware that the L-UAL and L-CAL pilots wanted a JCBA. In his defense he did say he had been made aware of the pilots' need for a JCBA a couple of years ago, but that did not necessarily jibe with the pilots' actions. He specifically mentioned all of the "volunteers" (on both sides of the airline) who are jumping through their collective a**es to cover all of that 150% flying. He said that such actions mearly tend to mask the company's manpower issues, and are manpower negative.
In fact, the MEC and the NC have already approached Smiseck and told him that the pilots want a JCBA, and that we really, really mean it. From what my rep told me, Jeffy just laughed and said, "Have you seen our on-time and completion stats? They're crazy good considering where we are right now. From where I sit, all of the pilots at UCH are happy."
My rep did say something about unionism and individual responsibility and how the individual pilots give the MECs and the JNC leverage. Yada, yada yada... I will keep hammering away at my Rep. I still don't think he believes that we want a JCBA.
Hog
04-27-2012 | 03:14 PM
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For what it's worth....I talked to Charlie Venama on Tuesday. He told me the earliest I should expect a letter in sometime in Aug. I'm currently #13 on the list. He didn't say anything about class sizes through the summer for returning Mil Leave or LOAs. Andy should be sending out a new update soon.
04-27-2012 | 03:16 PM
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