No offense, but what selfish group of pilots are we talking about. Best I recall, Bush solving a problem for the PBGC with the mandatory 60 rule. Now, why would somebody stay past 60? I've talked to a bunch and this I've found 30% of planned pension, economy in the tank and the uncertainty of SS and medicare. Are they stealing/greedy - No! They are taking the hand they were given just like you and dealing with it.

 

This ought to make your Christmas.
Canada ends mandatory retirement age for pilots.

Tories end forced retirement, decades of ?age discrimination? | CARP Canada

 

If you're going to post an article, at least read it. From the article:

Some Air Canada pilots have been among the most vocal opponents to mandatory retirement provisions, and their cause has migrated from the tribunal to the Federal Court of Appeals, which is slated to reach a decision early next year that could affect pilots turning 60 before the December 2012 coming-into-force date.
Raymond Hall, the Winnipeg-based counsel for the group of pilots challenging the provision in the courts, said the government’s bill is welcomed — but too little, too late.
“When I sent out an email to my 200 clients, I got 15 emails from pilots asking, ‘I’m turning 60 before next December, so what will happen to me?’” he said. “My answer was that Air Canada might be able to continue its practice.”



Allow me to translate for you. The Federal Court of Appeals may allow Air Canada to continue the practice of pilots retiring at age 60. Or they may change it to something other than 60. My guess is that they'll change it to 65, aligning Air Canada's retirement age with current ICAO standards.

From another part of the article:

All Canadian jurisdictions, with the exception of New Brunswick, have now abolished mandatory retirement, although there are some exceptions in some provinces for particular occupations.


Again, there are exceptions to no mandatory retirement age.

 

Well, Syd. If the complainers want to fly as many years in the left seat as they would have, they will need to fly to 65. You see, if you were a Captain when the law changed, you got 5 more career years as Captain. If you were an F/O or furloughed, you got 5 more career years of same. The age 65 rule did not benefit everyone equally, like aged 60+ Captains like to believe. A 40 y/o F/O who would have upgraded due to age 60 retirements in 2007, would have had 20 years as captain. In Dec 2012, when age 65 retirements start, that same 40 y/o (now 45 y/o) will finally upgrade and still have 20 years as captain, but only if he flies to age 65.

Sled

 

I was captain when the law changed, but I got displaced back to FO!

 

Andy

If your going to chastise someone for posting an article you ought to do a little research yourself.

The Canadian Parliament just passed a Bill C-13 "Keeping Canada's Economy and Jobs Growing Act" which repealed the exemptions for age limited workers which are outlined in the Canadian Human Rights Act. Let me translate for you, the mandatory retirement age for pilots is gone on the effective date of the legislation.

R.S., c. H-6


L.R., ch. H-6


165. Subsection 9(2) of the Canadian Human Rights Act is repealed.
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166. Paragraph 15(1)(c) of the Act is repealed.



167. Paragraph 235(2)(b) of the Canada Labour Code is repealed.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublicati...39116&File=170

Of course I could be wrong

 

And why, exactly, was Raymond Hall, the lawyer for the pilots with an age discrimination lawsuit quoted in the article stating, “My answer was that Air Canada might be able to continue its practice.”

And why did the article state, "All Canadian jurisdictions, with the exception of New Brunswick, have now abolished mandatory retirement, although there are some exceptions in some provinces for particular occupations."

I can't wait until an 80 year old fireman who needs a walker sues on the basis of age discrimination.

 

Don't forget those of us who were F/Os when the law changed and have spent the last 3 years on furlough thanks to the change.

 

Otto, same here. But parking 100 jets in 2008 had everything to do with that. I've been right seating (again) for 3 years now. But hey, what does one expect with only 14.5 years on property. I love to hear the old school talk about how it used to be...."when I got hired, there were guys who had been in the back seat (panel) for 12 years!" To which I reply..." nowadays, 12 years gets you NO SEAT!!" (furloughed). Not to mention the fact that the old school talk is coming from guys who spent maybe 8-10 years on property before upgrading to Captain.

Sled

 

Andy, the law change certainly did not help, but parking 94 guppies and 6 whales was the real culprit. But hey, Glenn got his merger!!

SLed