Keep reading ual guys and gals they can rationalize anything they do including taking your job.

 

There you go every man for himself, have to love it. lol

 

Guess we'll agree to disagree. What are your plans for Profit Sharing 2012? We don't have it in the TPA Extension.. guess we'll have to make another "side deal".

Glad you think it was a worthless grievance, I don't. Can I ask you what fleet and seat you're on? As a 756 FO, I don't get near 76 flying (being junior..), but haven spoken to numerous Captains and senior FO's, they have seen a reduction in their pay due to less 76 flying due to the loss (with CAL ALPA Approval) of these aircraft.

Also, don't you think it strange that THIS MANAGEMENT TEAM would trade away 40+million for a grievance that was worth a fraction of that, and that is IF they lost?! Had they won, they wouldn't have had to pay anything?!

Motch

 

Agree with this one.

 

SYD111-
Please don't group all the CAL Pilots together when it comes to crap like this. As other CAL Pilots have already posted, if push comes to shove.. many of us will stand shoulder to shoulder with you.

I have gone to numerous events, and have opened my door to UAL pilots needing a place to stay, or a ride.
While I understand that we are two separate pilots groups, at the end of the day- we are all suppose to be Union Pilots. Our fight is not, and should not; be against each other. Our fight is with this management team.

That being said, both groups (every pilot group probably) has their 5-10% of *******s, idiots, self centered, saviors and nutjobs. Just got to weed them out~

Motch

 

Otto...

There is only one way to find out. Even if B.O. makes an emergency stop order this sends a message loud and clear and once and for all that things are not well at UCH and that Mr. Smallsack has been providing a false picture to Wall Street.

This will not look good for co worker Jeff.

 

Sorry.

At least one provision within the amendable CBA expired. That would be a better way to put it. And that is accurate.

 

Yes.

Co-Worker Jeff is on a long-leash with the BOD. I thought his leash was short, but the BOD evidently has given him great latitude to screw us at will. Maybe the leverage should be applied to the BOD.......Time for a letter writing campaign in their local newspapers "shaming them" among other things.

 

When all this started I did not lump them together, I reached out to them, but after the profit sharing and reading into many of the posts here I can't help it. I like many of your posts and agree with many of them, however you are out numbered by the many that sound like they are waiting for any chance to advance themselves at the expense of others.

Best of luck.

 

History shows that these grievances have never amounted to any moneys to the pilots. I can't think of a single grievance at either IACP or ALPA in which the pilots got any money back. So, the best predictor of future performance is past performance.

History also shows that ALPA won't go to court for anything.

History shows that CAL management would drag this out until your great grand children are in their rocking chairs.

It is not just a 756 issue. it affects all cal pilots becaue all cal pilots get to bid into the various BES's. It has a more immediate affect on the currently staffed 756 pilots, but it has a cascading affect on all cal pilots.

When the word "cascading effect" is used by both ALPA and management........run for cover. That is code talk for "an arbitrator won't cut the baby." Like age 65 at CAL...........remember that one. ALPA just left it alone and walked away even though it had demonstrated a cascading affect on the entire seniority list at CAL. And that was just for 24 over 60 friends of phred.

perhaps worthless was too strong. But, overall the CAL pilots feel it was a good trade. Could the MEC have done better. I think so. I really do. I would have liked to see more here. The reason we didn't is because the CAL MEC didn't hold out for more.