jetlink

That's funny, just show up and tell them, we all got called in for two clases of 756.

Snipe Hunter

Also in the UAL pool. No new info. Will post if something comes in.

-SH

jetlink

Thank you for your updates, I hope UAL poolies are not upset, when I asked about CAL poolies, of course I ment all UACAL poolies!
See you all in training.

Number56

Latest I hear is there's about 30 open spots in Nov/Dec. There's 80 poolies, so it'll be interesting how they determine the order - perhaps original class date? I might get an update later today that I can share...

EWRflyr

Would only seem fair that if a pilot had a class date in hand and it was canceled then they should come out of the pool in class date order. If just in the pool awaiting a class date, then don't know how they'll figure that out.

I know on the CAL side we had two or three classes canceled at least. A buddy of mine got the call one week before his class and was told his class was being canceled. At least he was able to rescind his resignation from his original company.

bluefrog

Thanks. Please do.

I would think order would go by interview date in the absence of a class date. IMHO

Keyscrab

Another FAM day today so maybe someone will share latest rumors.

Last somebody said they heard from the IAH puzzle palace is they were 47 short for Nov/Dec based on furlough acceptance. Sounds like they may have inserted some interns who were on site to make the plunge. Then again the 47 rumor could have been wrong as well. Who knows....and really its not a big deal in the long run.

Bottom line is they've gone and down the furlough list a few times and roughly 27% decided on the CAL reserve adventure. They got interns, job fair favorites and poolies from CAL and UAL in 07/08 but even those aren't that many.

They're 411 short by August next year and thats with only 70 some odd retirements only on the CAL side. The UAL side is fat right now but once those 65'rs head for the door (especially with a retro check) on that side they'll have vacancies appearing. Last update from UAL side was Q1 2013 they'll revisit the the manpower at UAL. I wouldn't expect a big bid even then as they'll run the UAL side lean as possible for as long as possible.

Long run, despite all the obvious Harvard MBA pilots on here UCH is going to follow the consumer and cater to capacity discipline. The beginning maturity of the US airline industry is at hand just like many other industries have matured in this country over the years. They have market power over the consumer and their unofficial cartel effect on the traveling public is beginning to payoff. That's a good thing for employees long run and it's about bloody time these airlines charged what it costs to fly.

Your services as pilots aren't much different than any commodity. If there's a bunch of bonehead pilots sitting around willing to go play with their favorite toys for 20K a year well airlines pay what the market will bare. Now, if we get a little harder to find then it goes back up incrementally based on need. We've bottomed out for sure. The RJ industry is in a free fall and reached the peak of their size recently and will very unlikely grow from here on out in the number of jet hulls operated if scope is held. RJ pilots in the next 5 years will become RT pilots (especially if they rengine that Q400 and fix the airframe problems). Narrowbodies will begin to look like a Havana bus at rush hour and there will be less choice and frequency for the consumer but nay, not to worry the prices will at least stay the same or go up.

It's all about fuel efficiency and pretty much everything that happens in your career as an airline pilot will be tied to the cost of fuel, how to burn less, fly more people, sell them more things and eek out every penny of cash flow from the passenger.

The CAL side is kicking off the recruiting drive. I don't think there will be a pilot shortage because there will never be a shortage of kids who want to go fly jets and if they can get the money-they'll be there in droves. But there will be a VACUUM of current qualified pilots that the majors will want as they're 65rs head for the door.

This is longwinded BS I know, thanks for playing. The point is you want to be at the beginning of that wave and seems to me UCH needs a few folks and that right soon. Get your pretty little tie on and get ready to do a little dance for interview team.

workingforfree

Not sure they are hiring interns (which would be off the street) or anyone from a job fair off the street yet. There are plenty of pool (UA and CO) who have not been offered a class date as of yet.

However, I do reserve the right to be entirely wrong. Intern is slightly possible but I highly doubt anyone from job fairs (LAS) has been hired off the street.

Keyscrab

Buddy out at IAH claims he was told by somebody doing the hiring interns, certain professional association applicants who hold certain job fairs regularly (read between lines there) and poolies would (in no specific order that he was aware of) be considered first then they'd go off the street. I'd imagine the poolies would be first as is customary but if you've been putting in the hours as an intern and are standing right there I'd imagine it counts for something. Who knows what the order is. Just rumor and conjecture. Sure CV knows what he's doing. Seems like a good person from all my experience.

workingforfree

Ah those job fairs... ok that makes sense. I fully support those organizations so no complaining from me. I thought you meant the FAPA job fairs.