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workingforfree 11-23-2012 04:54 PM

Has anyone talked to CV lately or heard any new information?

flybynuts 11-23-2012 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by workingforfree (Post 1297936)
Has anyone talked to CV lately or heard any new information?

Poolies are filling classes until Jan. Feb may need off-the-street hiring but the TA is really putting a lot of uncertainty into the mix. Just have to see of it passes or not by mid-December.

SUX4U 11-24-2012 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by flybynuts (Post 1297989)
Poolies are filling classes until Jan. Feb may need off-the-street hiring but the TA is really putting a lot of uncertainty into the mix. Just have to see of it passes or not by mid-December.


Is the uncertainty with the TA in regards to how many UA furloughees would return? Also, does this TA not require additional man power then the current seperate CBA's require?

workingforfree 11-24-2012 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by SUX4U (Post 1298202)
Is the uncertainty with the TA in regards to how many UA furloughees would return? Also, does this TA not require additional man power then the current seperate CBA's require?

I am curious about this also? If the TA passes, does it entice the people (who are most likely gainfully employed) who turned down the L-CAL job offer, to suddenly take the job? In regards to the manpower I am not sure, I read in another thread that 800 more pilots would be needed as a result of the work rule changes. Totally unsure about that though.

Dave Fitzgerald 11-24-2012 09:18 AM

Yes, the changes in work rules would require about 800 more pilots due to the change. Formerly CO side.

workingforfree 11-24-2012 09:38 AM

Thanks Dave and Flyby!

horrido27 11-24-2012 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 1298238)
Yes, the changes in work rules would require about 800 more pilots due to the change. Formerly CO side.

Where did you get this number? I ask because FO Tara Cook, EWR FO Rep stated to me (in front of a handful of other pilots../20 Nov) that the number was less.

Then the UAL MEC Rep in attendance stated 370-400 pilots needed under the New JCBA and he also stated that the company's figure was 600 pilots.

Then again, after seeing the misleading info in the CrewNews, having my Reps lie to me and watching ALPA cave.. I really don't believe anything most of them say anymore~

Motch
NO

flybynuts 11-24-2012 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Velosprints (Post 1298075)
How many classes per month? How many poolies are there? This info is from CV's office?


Plan is to still hire/train 48 mos until the summer. Then resume in the fall at 48 mos. There were about 60-80 poolies coming.

flybynuts 11-24-2012 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by SUX4U (Post 1298202)
Is the uncertainty with the TA in regards to how many UA furloughees would return? Also, does this TA not require additional man power then the current seperate CBA's require?

TA could have an impact on furloughees returning or sure. TA may require more hiring but not sure of the number and the real scope implications.

Dave Fitzgerald 11-24-2012 08:17 PM

"Where did you get this number? I ask because FO Tara Cook, EWR FO Rep stated to me (in front of a handful of other pilots../20 Nov) that the number was less."

That number has been around sUAL for a couple of years. Don't know what the CO people are saying.


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