cadetdrivr

From the ORD ALPA Scheduling Committee Report (4/3/14):

MPAdriver

Thank you for the update....but not having stood a day in the "shoes" of a UAL employee would you mind explaining what some of this does or may mean to poolies? I know most of us read this and instantly ask what does this mean to my wait for starting a paycheck (class date).

1. ORD "ALPA" Scheduling Committee

Question:
Is this the committee that decides these things? I would have thought it would be a "UAL" Scheduling Committee that would make the final decision on something like this?

2. The Company is expecting pilot shortages this summer, especially 737 Captain and 756 FO positions.

Question:
So I "assume" this means New Hires are still very much needed???

3. No new hires will be offered 737 FO positions until after the summer.

Questions:
New Hire classes will continue to only "trickle" along since the 76T and 320 pipelines can only handle so many folks at a time?

Any idea how many per week those pipelines can handle?

Do you guys think this will decrease Furloughs and LOAs from returning until after the summer?

4.The Company had anticipated winding down training by June to have all pilots available to fly the line for the summer. Because of poor planning, that has been pushed to July.

Question:
The poolies were told last month that training was going to continue though the summer...is this just re-enforcing that statement?

Question:
Does this mean anything else that a Poolie who is not familiar with the industry/company should know?

Sorry for all the questions but those of you that post on here are our only source of info.

On behalf of the poolies - thanks in advance for the education.

MasterOfPuppets

1. The ALPA Sked Com works with the company sked department. They are just reporting what they are "allowed" to report from those meetings. They talk about aircraft and crew allocation as well as ID information.

2. Yes the new hires are still very much needed we are big time short crews. However, as I mentioned in this thread last month crew planning dicked up and now we don't have enough CAs and the 756 fleet is a mess for reasons beyond me.

3. I do believe hiring will continue to trickle tell this fall but not because the 76T and 320 can only handle a certain amount but because we don't need that many bodies on those fleets. The 320 is staffed pretty well and, in my opinion, will see a massive displacement bid in the fall from DEN and ORD. The 76T will have a MAJOR pull down in the fall with lots of displacements and, in my opinion, the closing of DEN, ORD and SFO. United is due for a major realignment and it will happen this fall after that we should have our staffing more consistent and new hires will be able to flow into the 737, 320 and 756/76T fleets and have more bases to select from. I have no clue how any of this will affect furloughs and LOAs coming back but I assume most of them will not want to go to training through the entire summer just to be junior on the 320 and 76T when they could be senior line holders on the 737.

4. I was told by a sked rep that there would be NO training over the summer so this is good news and new news to me. I do believe it will be a t a reduced rate.

Long story short you are all needed and will all be on property in the fall things are just really jacked up right now with staffing. It will take the fall pull down and massive displacement bids to fix this mess and it has to happen soon.

If you want to be based in DEN go get a job at SkyWest because you will be an old man before you can hold a vacancy here.

mrmak2

So when will the florida base open?

untied

2005.

That's when I started hearing the rumor that it was "imminent".

Any day now...

JetBlast77

Where will they displace to? I don't believe we are seeing a reduction in airframes anytime soon and they continue to post vacancies on the 320 in EWR. Its funny I keep hearing we are short crews yet there are both 737 and
320 guys having to do landings for currency

If they displace bus guys out of those bases and we arent parking aircraft, I would think those positons would have to go somewhere.

AltoCubicle

Congrsts El Guapo and WorstPilotever on your class dates!!!

How were you notified? Who did you speak with? Did CV actually leave that position?

liveupthere

Take a look at the disparity in terms of number of 320 CAs vs. FOs
in EWR. They keep dumping FOs into the base but no CAs, which makes no sense. What good is 85 FO's if theres only 45 CA's?

JetBlast77

I understand that, my question is why? Are they intending to send these FOs other places? Are they planning on displacing off the 320? It seems odd to keep posting these vacancies in positions where we are already overstaffed.

MasterOfPuppets

Remember you are not at a regional anymore displacements are not just to the open seats in whatever bases they have open. Read the language a pilot that is senior to another pilot has a right to his/her seat. Displace out of DEN/ORD and you end up with a bunch of pilots going to the 737 in DEN/ORD. If DEN/ORD can not absorb that many pilots then the junior 737 pilots get bumped out of DEN/ORD to wherever their seniority can hold and so on........

Your right we are not parking frames so if the pilots displaced through out the system don't take 320 positions then there will be a vacancy bid and the pilots based in EWR will be able to bid around the system to the open positions.

Remember the new hires have to go somewhere and they can only go to unfilled vacancies the only unfilled vacancies in the last year have been in EWR.