What is the size of the classes now? What are the bids you are seeing?
Welcome to all the new hires. Moving forward and better times ahead.

 

UNOFFICAL UAL Poolie News – CREATED BY POOLIES for POOLIES (4/1)
For Entertainment Purposes Only.
This is news you provide – want more news? Send it in and I will update this every weekend
Poolie line-up based on interview dates. ALL data is based on info provided in this tread/PMs:

01 April - New unofficial total ~150ish swimming
26March – Official total ~160(as advertised by UAL)

October 14-18
Northbound (L) – Assigned 4/22; Congrats!
PorkSoda (L) - Assigned 4/22; Congrats!
Knot Captain (L) – Assigned 4/22: Congrats!
El Guapo (L) - Assigned 4/29; Congrats!
WorstPilotever (M)
Non-APCer (M)

October 21-25
eyeamthechosen1 (L)
SoCalFlyr (M)
WildLifeL4 (M)
PC Load Letter (M)
DashTrash (H)
BaskingShark

October 28- 01Nov (all interviewees this week were offered jobs ~24???)
KK0607 (L)
Faipsrule (L)
McNugent (L)
Flythetube (L)
Norske (M)
Farklempt (H)
Hart11b (H)
Light Chop

November 4-8 (“Pool line number” ~90s)
MPAdriver (M)
Non-APCer

November 11-15 (“Pool line number” ~80s) ** as of 3/11 estimate August class**
Flygirl135 (L)
Zachimus (L)
VicePlug (L)
Northermn (L)
Fresh

November 18-22
Tkt96 (L)
Thor
King58 (H)

November 25-29
Thefoxsays

December 2-6
Cool Runnings (M)
Double LL (M)
F15andMD11 (H)
Nonapcer2

December 9-13 (end of interviews 2013)
Hangingon (L) “Pool line # ~16ish”
Circleflyer (H)
Doubleddployed (H)

Recent class assignments:
20 May -
06 May -
29 April - 2 New Hires (2 76T)
22 April – 5 New Hires (2 A320 – 4 76T)
15 April - 3 New Hires (3 A320 – 1 76T)
08 April – 2 New Hires (2 A320 – 2 76T)
01 April – 4 New Hires
25 March – 6 New Hires (A320 – 76T)
All of Feb – 13 New Hires (737/A320/76T)
76T = Trans-Atlantic 767-300ER @ EWR and 757-200 p.s. transcon @ JFK.
320 = Domestic, including some Caribbean, out of both LGA and EWR.

Recent News/Scuttlebutt
26 March – New Future classes: “May 6, 20 June 3, 17 FWIW, training capacity remains a challenge and even some previously scheduled transition training classes for current pilots have been deferred without firm new dates.”
24 March- 737 Training should be caught up mid-July with CA upgrades and new hires resume .
- CV on my behalf regarding the 1yr expiration of the COE. He said “it is NOT something to worry about”
- CV will be replaced by new hiring manager on 3/28
14 March – Interviewees week of Nov 11-15 likely to see August class dates
12 March – We were told training WILL continue through the Summer .

 

I look at the list and start to get excited but then remember all the non-APCers! I count 35 poolies w/o class assignments. How large is the pool estimate these days? 140-150ish?! That's a **** ton of guys n gals not on APC!!
By 90% I assume you mean 90% of APCers, which is all we can really know, correct?

 

I see what you're saying with the "pool line numbers." I'll agree with you now that you have the 90% guesstimate. Good job.
Now back to crying in my beer...

 

According to post # 1034 worstpilotever was assigned a class date

 

From the ORD ALPA Scheduling Committee Report (4/3/14):

 

Thank you for the update....but not having stood a day in the "shoes" of a UAL employee would you mind explaining what some of this does or may mean to poolies? I know most of us read this and instantly ask what does this mean to my wait for starting a paycheck (class date).

1. ORD "ALPA" Scheduling Committee

Question:
Is this the committee that decides these things? I would have thought it would be a "UAL" Scheduling Committee that would make the final decision on something like this?

2. The Company is expecting pilot shortages this summer, especially 737 Captain and 756 FO positions.

Question:
So I "assume" this means New Hires are still very much needed???

3. No new hires will be offered 737 FO positions until after the summer.

Questions:
New Hire classes will continue to only "trickle" along since the 76T and 320 pipelines can only handle so many folks at a time?

Any idea how many per week those pipelines can handle?

Do you guys think this will decrease Furloughs and LOAs from returning until after the summer?

4.The Company had anticipated winding down training by June to have all pilots available to fly the line for the summer. Because of poor planning, that has been pushed to July.

Question:
The poolies were told last month that training was going to continue though the summer...is this just re-enforcing that statement?

Question:
Does this mean anything else that a Poolie who is not familiar with the industry/company should know?

Sorry for all the questions but those of you that post on here are our only source of info.

On behalf of the poolies - thanks in advance for the education.

 

1. The ALPA Sked Com works with the company sked department. They are just reporting what they are "allowed" to report from those meetings. They talk about aircraft and crew allocation as well as ID information.

2. Yes the new hires are still very much needed we are big time short crews. However, as I mentioned in this thread last month crew planning dicked up and now we don't have enough CAs and the 756 fleet is a mess for reasons beyond me.

3. I do believe hiring will continue to trickle tell this fall but not because the 76T and 320 can only handle a certain amount but because we don't need that many bodies on those fleets. The 320 is staffed pretty well and, in my opinion, will see a massive displacement bid in the fall from DEN and ORD. The 76T will have a MAJOR pull down in the fall with lots of displacements and, in my opinion, the closing of DEN, ORD and SFO. United is due for a major realignment and it will happen this fall after that we should have our staffing more consistent and new hires will be able to flow into the 737, 320 and 756/76T fleets and have more bases to select from. I have no clue how any of this will affect furloughs and LOAs coming back but I assume most of them will not want to go to training through the entire summer just to be junior on the 320 and 76T when they could be senior line holders on the 737.

4. I was told by a sked rep that there would be NO training over the summer so this is good news and new news to me. I do believe it will be a t a reduced rate.

Long story short you are all needed and will all be on property in the fall things are just really jacked up right now with staffing. It will take the fall pull down and massive displacement bids to fix this mess and it has to happen soon.

If you want to be based in DEN go get a job at SkyWest because you will be an old man before you can hold a vacancy here.

 

So when will the florida base open?

 

2005.

That's when I started hearing the rumor that it was "imminent".

Any day now...