UAL Pool-ies
07-18-2013, 08:25 AM
#51
Abused Spouse of PBS
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Originally Posted by flybynuts
Contractually we offer the recall to the remaining L-UAL pilots. They will have a set time to reply with thier intentions of accept, bypass or quit. This should happen quickly after the arbitrated ISL is presented to the company.
07-18-2013, 12:06 PM
#52
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Originally Posted by 82spukram
152sic
In 08 did they send an email stating 1 year to get on property? If so I am glad to hear it.
For what it is worth the email from this morning did state that classes will be running this fall and winter, the question is how they will be filled. Returning furloughs or new hires.
Guess we will see. Thanks for everyone's input.
In 08 did they send an email stating 1 year to get on property? If so I am glad to hear it.
For what it is worth the email from this morning did state that classes will be running this fall and winter, the question is how they will be filled. Returning furloughs or new hires.
Guess we will see. Thanks for everyone's input.
07-18-2013, 01:00 PM
#53
Gets Weekends Off
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
True, but I am looking the factors directly influencing the ual side. Even with the announcement of the grand bargain in a month or so, the ual side will still be idled for months afterward.
Be interesting to see how a UAL furlough flying the 737 at CAL gets recalled to fly the 737 what kind of school will he need to go threw to get his vacation restored?
07-18-2013, 01:35 PM
#54
Peace Love Understanding
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Originally Posted by El10
Sorry I am with you. The stagnation will continue for a few more months on S-ual side.
Be interesting to see how a UAL furlough flying the 737 at CAL gets recalled to fly the 737 what kind of school will he need to go threw to get his vacation restored?
Be interesting to see how a UAL furlough flying the 737 at CAL gets recalled to fly the 737 what kind of school will he need to go threw to get his vacation restored?
If a pilot is currently flying on the CAL side of United, as soon as SLI is done, he is already back on the property. He doesn't get recalled again. There won't be a CAL seniority list anymore. Just the UAL seniority list, and he will just have a new place on it.
07-18-2013, 02:15 PM
#55
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Originally Posted by El10
Sorry I am with you. The stagnation will continue for a few more months on S-ual side.
Be interesting to see how a UAL furlough flying the 737 at CAL gets recalled to fly the 737 what kind of school will he need to go threw to get his vacation restored?
Be interesting to see how a UAL furlough flying the 737 at CAL gets recalled to fly the 737 what kind of school will he need to go threw to get his vacation restored?
If a pilot is currently flying on the CAL side of United, as soon as SLI is done, he is already back on the property. He doesn't get recalled again. There won't be a CAL seniority list anymore. Just the UAL seniority list, and he may have a new place on it."
Non-biased editing for clarity.
07-18-2013, 02:21 PM
#56
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Originally Posted by SEDPA
"I'm not sure I understand this exactly....
If a pilot is currently flying on the CAL side of United, as soon as SLI is done, he is already back on the property. He doesn't get recalled again. There won't be a CAL seniority list anymore. Just the UAL seniority list, and he may have a new place on it."
Non-biased editing for clarity.
If a pilot is currently flying on the CAL side of United, as soon as SLI is done, he is already back on the property. He doesn't get recalled again. There won't be a CAL seniority list anymore. Just the UAL seniority list, and he may have a new place on it."
Non-biased editing for clarity.
So you ARE correct.
07-18-2013, 05:46 PM
#57
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My understanding is that the two sides of the fence are still a few phases of training apart from allowing mixed crews from flying together. I guess a better example would be that a furlough flying the 757 in EWR gets a bid for LAX how what type of training will they get? Is it just a simple day of Saber training and off you go?
07-19-2013, 07:55 AM
#58
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
I'm not sure I understand this exactly....
If a pilot is currently flying on the CAL side of United, as soon as SLI is done, he is already back on the property. He doesn't get recalled again. There won't be a CAL seniority list anymore. Just the UAL seniority list, and he will just have a new place on it.
If a pilot is currently flying on the CAL side of United, as soon as SLI is done, he is already back on the property. He doesn't get recalled again. There won't be a CAL seniority list anymore. Just the UAL seniority list, and he will just have a new place on it.
After SLI, he or she will have a choice of two seniority positions with the integrated company. Seniority as a L-UAL pilot or L-CAL pilot.
Who knows he or she might be better off with 1 year L-CAL position instead of 10 years L-UAL
07-19-2013, 08:13 AM
#60
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Originally Posted by SEDPA
"I'm not sure I understand this exactly....
If a pilot is currently flying on the CAL side of United, as soon as SLI is done, he is already back on the property. He doesn't get recalled again. There won't be a CAL seniority list anymore. Just the UAL seniority list, and he may have a new place on it."
Non-biased editing for clarity.
If a pilot is currently flying on the CAL side of United, as soon as SLI is done, he is already back on the property. He doesn't get recalled again. There won't be a CAL seniority list anymore. Just the UAL seniority list, and he may have a new place on it."
Non-biased editing for clarity.
So legally, they all will have an official recall letter, and bypass rights up to 10 years from the last furlough notice of 2008, hence 2018.
They will have a choice of places on the new SLI, as a L-UAL pilot or L-CAL pilot. If they choose to be integrated as a L-CAL they stay put. Who knows how arbitrators will integrate the list, it might be that the most junior pilot on furlough list be better off being a L-CAL pilot with new hire date of 2011.
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