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Old 07-18-2013 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by syd111
I am not sure how this effects any of the hiring but they did just offer some leaves for sept, oct nov as they say we transition from summer to fall.
That's typical and the same reason airlines have also historically hired in the "off season" as the instructors and check airman are not needed on the line.
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Old 07-18-2013 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
That's typical and the same reason airlines have also historically hired in the "off season" as the instructors and check airman are not needed on the line.
Yes understand cadet thats why I mentioned seasonal, however until the merger I have not seen ual do this as much. At ual most of our instructors are not on the line much during any season. I think this has more to do with seasonal cut back in flying, but could be wrong.
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Old 07-18-2013 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by syd111
Yes understand cadet thats why I mentioned seasonal, however until the merger I have not seen ual do this as much. At ual most of our instructors are not on the line much during any season. I think this has more to do with seasonal cut back in flying, but could be wrong.
Probably due to the fact that we are parking 13 757s while only receiving 6 Guppies in Q4.
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Old 07-18-2013 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by flightmedic01
Thanks man, I appreciate the encouragement. Do you know if there is a finite time we can be in the pool before they can rescind a job offer?
I interviewed and was hired in March 2008. I finally made it to class in February 2013 after an abbreviated interview. Apparently you can float for a long time! I wouldn't worry about it.
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Old 07-18-2013 | 07:37 AM
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In 08 did they send an email stating 1 year to get on property? If so I am glad to hear it.

For what it is worth the email from this morning did state that classes will be running this fall and winter, the question is how they will be filled. Returning furloughs or new hires.

Guess we will see. Thanks for everyone's input.
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Old 07-18-2013 | 07:40 AM
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What's the thought on the line with the 800 guys on furlough. 50 percent acceptance or bypass?
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Old 07-18-2013 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by IADBLRJ41
What's the thought on the line with the 800 guys on furlough. 50 percent acceptance or bypass?
Bypass.

Out of the ~1400 original UA furloughees over 600 are currently flying at sCAL. The ones that wanted (or needed) to quickly return are already back at UCH. sUAL has officially sent out 342 recall letters and every single furloughee was offered a sCAL job last year and can go to sCAL anytime with a single phone call as long as classes are running. They haven't.

Considering that historically only around 50% ever return that means there's probably only a couple hundred still out there that will eventually return.

Of course, the big variable here is the SLI itself and where they end up. IMHO, with a positive result for the furloughees we'll see more of them sooner and if the entire group is stapled we'll see far fewer ever return.
The ones sitting out are sitting out because they can. The SLI will determine what they eventually do but with a 10-year bypass they have time to sit and watch and keep UAL in their back pocket.
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Old 07-18-2013 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
Probably due to the fact that we are parking 13 757s while only receiving 6 Guppies in Q4.
We are also adding two more Sparkies and get back one 738 that has leased out for the winglet certification. Net decrease of five aircraft for the second half of 2013.
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Old 07-18-2013 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by El10
We are also adding two more Sparkies and get back one 738 that has leased out for the winglet certification. Net decrease of five aircraft for the second half of 2013.
True, but I am looking the factors directly influencing the ual side. Even with the announcement of the grand bargain in a month or so, the ual side will still be idled for months afterward.
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Old 07-18-2013 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
Bypass.

Out of the ~1400 original UA furloughees over 600 are currently flying at sCAL. The ones that wanted (or needed) to quickly return are already back at UCH. sUAL has officially sent out 342 recall letters and every single furloughee was offered a sCAL job last year and can go to sCAL anytime with a single phone call as long as classes are running. They haven't.

Considering that historically only around 50% ever return that means there's probably only a couple hundred still out there that will eventually return.

Of course, the big variable here is the SLI itself and where they end up. IMHO, with a positive result for the furloughees we'll see more of them sooner and if the entire group is stapled we'll see far fewer ever return.
The ones sitting out are sitting out because they can. The SLI will determine what they eventually do but with a 10-year bypass they have time to sit and watch and keep UAL in their back pocket.
Thanks. That was a good read
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