CAL MEC Statement
09-07-2013 | 05:59 PM
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My windfall post has nothing to due with mine or any other CAL pilots' expectations ... maybe our MC and JP did something to your expectations, I don't know ... just because the arbs sactioned it and deemed it fair and equitable doesn't mean it ISN"T A WINDFALL ... with reference to tens of thousand of pilots who came before you, this award is a windfall for everyone on your list, and especially your furloughees, and now it is precedent. This award will haunt everyone again sometime in the future.
09-07-2013 | 06:10 PM
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09-07-2013 | 06:12 PM
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For the jumpseat? It would not matter because his seniority number would be printed on his jumpseat pass and the Captain could grant the seat to the guy with the lowest number.
09-07-2013 | 07:07 PM
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09-08-2013 | 08:44 AM
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Exactly. So you are late getting home because of delays, and there is only one flight to get you home. You get there and some new hire is traveling for "fun" and he signed up two days ago, but you couldn't have because you were supposed to be in 4 hours earlier, and you signed up for another flight (which pilots avoided trying to get on because they saw you had the seat even though you never showed us).
So you get to spend the night at the airport while someone junior to you gets to go to on vacation for a few days and visit friends.
So you get to spend the night at the airport while someone junior to you gets to go to on vacation for a few days and visit friends.
Book it and done. Go on about your business without stressing about it. Sit around worrying about getting to work for days only to have some senior guy bump you out a the last minute to go play golf with his buddies? Pass.
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09-08-2013 | 08:56 AM
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Seniority and DOH are different things. Non-rev is based on DOH and LCAL prints out the list in order of DOH, not the seniority list. If the new UAL MEC may change the way the front jumpseat is assigned, but I doubt they will have any success in changing DOH as the methodology for non-rev.
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09-08-2013 | 09:47 AM
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Seniority and DOH are different things. Non-rev is based on DOH and LCAL prints out the list in order of DOH, not the seniority list. If the new UAL MEC may change the way the front jumpseat is assigned, but I doubt they will have any success in changing DOH as the methodology for non-rev.
I do think it's a mistake to change jumpseat priority from "Pilot Seniority" to DOH. On this issue I think the UAL MEC is trying to exercise it's dominance over the weakened JP. If any UAL guys still have the Green Cockpit Access cards that were in use for many years at UAL, please post a picture or the text of the card.
09-08-2013 | 10:36 AM
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I'm sure it will go that way. It may take awhile for the LCAL systems to differentiate between the two since right now LCAL jumpseat goes by DOH for those allowed to sit there. If the new MEC goes with seniority, the captain may just have to refer to the ISL for priority until IT adjusts the system.
09-08-2013 | 10:58 AM
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I could be wrong, but I believe that lUAL shows DOH on the form, but due to not mixing of many/any pilot groups up until this point, DOH was pretty much the equivalent of seniority order.
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09-08-2013 | 11:00 AM
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FWIW, lCAL JS is based on seniority. Lots of mixed dates of hire with all of the past mergers.
I could be wrong, but I believe that lUAL shows DOH on the form, but due to not mixing of many/any pilot groups up until this point, DOH was pretty much the equivalent of seniority order.
-Scott
I could be wrong, but I believe that lUAL shows DOH on the form, but due to not mixing of many/any pilot groups up until this point, DOH was pretty much the equivalent of seniority order.
-Scott
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