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Old 09-09-2013 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnHale
Some senior guys are willing to write a pass and allow the junior guy have the jump seat knowing he would have no chance of getting on the airplane in the back based on senority. When the plane fills and the senior guy can't get a seat in the back, he usually finds out about 5-10 minutes before departure, he moves to the jumpseat.

What do you think junior guys - is the senior guy wrong for trying to help you? Or should he just go for the jumpseat and leave you at the gate without hope?
The first thing you guys need to fix is that penny ante BS about charging for non-rev. If Delta can do it free, so can you.
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Old 09-09-2013 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bbhnpd
The first thing you guys need to fix is that penny ante BS about charging for non-rev. If Delta can do it free, so can you.
Agree, there is so much wrong with the current non-rev system for employees that it's turned into a joke since the merger. The new United system, which is basically the old CAL system - sucks. The new management(old cal) refuses to accept any employee input on the non-rev issue. CAL treated it as a rewards program - UAL treated it as a benefit/privilege.
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Old 09-09-2013 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnHale
Agree, there is so much wrong with the current non-rev system for employees that it's turned into a joke since the merger. The new United system, which is basically the old CAL system - sucks. The new management(old cal) refuses to accept any employee input on the non-rev issue. CAL treated it as a rewards program - UAL treated it as a benefit/privilege.
Pass travel is much worse. I have been boarded in the back of coach on a pass with economy plus seats open. I'm #2, get my seat, then see the rest of the Space A's who were behind me on the list getting the economy plus because they just went from "back to front". One time I called them and said "Aren't there any exit row seats..." and then she changed my seat.

Plus this "vacation pass" where junior people get to bump senior ones.... They should just call it a "Screw the senior employee pass"

What good is seniority anyway....
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Old 09-09-2013 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
Pass travel is much worse. I have been boarded in the back of coach on a pass with economy plus seats open. I'm #2, get my seat, then see the rest of the Space A's who were behind me on the list getting the economy plus because they just went from "back to front". One time I called them and said "Aren't there any exit row seats..." and then she changed my seat.

Plus this "vacation pass" where junior people get to bump senior ones.... They should just call it a "Screw the senior employee pass"

What good is seniority anyway....
LP,

I complained about this very thing and was told they were in the process of modifying the seat assignment software. It's been a while but, supposedly, the computer is supposed to assign "better" seats in seniority order (ie EP, exit row, window, aisle, THEN middle).
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Old 09-09-2013 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
LP,

I complained about this very thing and was told they were in the process of modifying the seat assignment software. It's been a while but, supposedly, the computer is supposed to assign "better" seats in seniority order (ie EP, exit row, window, aisle, THEN middle).
Thanks.

What about the people who list for both vacation and regular passes on the same flight then an hour out they cancel whatever one fits them best?
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Old 09-09-2013 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
Thanks.

What about the people who list for both vacation and regular passes on the same flight then an hour out they cancel whatever one fits them best?
I believe it says somewhere that multiple listings for the same flight are not permitted, maybe in the policy section under travel. Regardless, that is BS as is the whole vacation pass concept.
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Old 09-10-2013 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnHale
Junior guy shouldn't try to build a nest too early. That's the sympathy ploy for the junior guy that waited for the last flight to get to work. Don't try to beat the system - the system will catch you.
It won't "catch" me because I would never show up as they are closing the door to kick anyone out of the jumps seat.
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Old 09-10-2013 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by A320
It won't "catch" me because I would never show up as they are closing the door to kick anyone out of the jumps seat.
Kick em' out early is one approach, I guess? Had a seat in the back. The last available with a junior jumpseater, that would not have gotten a seat in the back if I had the jumpseat. Last minute revenue shows up and takes my seat.
Question: All bags were in the pit. Should I have walked off the airplane or bump the jumpseater?
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Old 09-10-2013 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bbhnpd
The first thing you guys need to fix is that penny ante BS about charging for non-rev. If Delta can do it free, so can you.
Well, technically it isn't free at Delta. We pay a yearly fee of $50. So it looks like it's free when you list. Definitely beats the $15 per leg we used to pay.
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Old 09-10-2013 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Well, technically it isn't free at Delta. We pay a yearly fee of $50. So it looks like it's free when you list. Definitely beats the $15 per leg we used to pay.
With new United(old cal) system. You pay before you fly and have to go back to get a refund if you don't/can't go. Basically, the company is saying they don't trust it's employees. Must have been a Lorenzo thing that carried forward with CAL modern that found it's way to replace the old UAL pass program. The New United pass program sucks for all employee groups.
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