CAL MEC Statement
09-10-2013 | 10:19 AM
#91
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BTW, I'm a retired Delta out of Pan Am out of NAL.
09-10-2013 | 01:16 PM
#92
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With new United(old cal) system. You pay before you fly and have to go back to get a refund if you don't/can't go. Basically, the company is saying they don't trust it's employees. Must have been a Lorenzo thing that carried forward with CAL modern that found it's way to replace the old UAL pass program. The New United pass program sucks for all employee groups.
If you are referring to companion passes the reason you are charged in advance is the credit card issue. There is always the chance a person conducts travel then cancels the credit card account thus leaving the company on the hook for the charges. Would you as the employee want to pay for a companions fees if they balked after they traveled? I have friends at US and DL, all companions pay in advance at both those carriers also.
09-10-2013 | 01:29 PM
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What are you referring to regarding paying first? Pass travel charges are payroll deducted and are paid post travel. Also, once you hit 25 years of service all pass travel is without surcharge (you will pay for customs fees).
If you are referring to companion passes the reason you are charged in advance is the credit card issue. There is always the chance a person conducts travel then cancels the credit card account thus leaving the company on the hook for the charges. Would you as the employee want to pay for a companions fees if they balked after they traveled? I have friends at US and DL, all companions pay in advance at both those carriers also.
If you are referring to companion passes the reason you are charged in advance is the credit card issue. There is always the chance a person conducts travel then cancels the credit card account thus leaving the company on the hook for the charges. Would you as the employee want to pay for a companions fees if they balked after they traveled? I have friends at US and DL, all companions pay in advance at both those carriers also.
09-10-2013 | 01:38 PM
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If you are UAL pilot (even on the CAL side), the charges have to be paid up front on a credit card, if you don't get first, you get the fun task of trying to get your money back. For me, it has taken months each and every time, and hours of my time because they keep changing the refund process. Prior to the merger, it was payroll deducted for us to, and only the charges you actually accrued.
09-10-2013 | 02:41 PM
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What are you referring to regarding paying first? Pass travel charges are payroll deducted and are paid post travel. Also, once you hit 25 years of service all pass travel is without surcharge (you will pay for customs fees).
If you are referring to companion passes the reason you are charged in advance is the credit card issue. There is always the chance a person conducts travel then cancels the credit card account thus leaving the company on the hook for the charges. Would you as the employee want to pay for a companions fees if they balked after they traveled? I have friends at US and DL, all companions pay in advance at both those carriers also.
If you are referring to companion passes the reason you are charged in advance is the credit card issue. There is always the chance a person conducts travel then cancels the credit card account thus leaving the company on the hook for the charges. Would you as the employee want to pay for a companions fees if they balked after they traveled? I have friends at US and DL, all companions pay in advance at both those carriers also.
Mine - EWR FCO, R/T, just me, 52.50, BC, credit card to make listing, UAL over 25 years.
It's logical for retires and companions to pay up-front.
09-10-2013 | 03:18 PM
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Talking about employee - not companion. Go to employeeRes and make a listing for a flight from EWR to FCO or you favorite spot(non vacation pass/BC). Tell me the optional ways you have to pay, CAL/UAL and if over 25 years. Not trying to get your info just to see if both groups are being treated equally for a comparison.
Mine - EWR FCO, R/T, just me, 52.50, BC, credit card to make listing, UAL over 25 years.
It's logical for retires and companions to pay up-front.
Mine - EWR FCO, R/T, just me, 52.50, BC, credit card to make listing, UAL over 25 years.
It's logical for retires and companions to pay up-front.
Does that help?
09-10-2013 | 03:23 PM
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Talking about employee - not companion. Go to employeeRes and make a listing for a flight from EWR to FCO or you favorite spot(non vacation pass/BC). Tell me the optional ways you have to pay, CAL/UAL and if over 25 years. Not trying to get your info just to see if both groups are being treated equally for a comparison.
Mine - EWR FCO, R/T, just me, 52.50, BC, credit card to make listing, UAL over 25 years.
It's logical for retires and companions to pay up-front.
Mine - EWR FCO, R/T, just me, 52.50, BC, credit card to make listing, UAL over 25 years.
It's logical for retires and companions to pay up-front.
Still have to pay departure taxes
09-10-2013 | 03:51 PM
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Where is the option for payroll deduction? Old UAL? Are you old UAL or CAL?
09-10-2013 | 04:34 PM
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Also, I am L-UA. Hope this helps you get to the bottom of the issue. That stinks if you have no payroll deduct option.
09-10-2013 | 04:52 PM
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It is on step three where you select BOOK ITINERARY. The page just after selecting pass riders. The box to select payroll deduct is in the middle of the page where the red writing is located with the verbiage about prepaid charges. There is a total cost line, followed by the select payment method. I can select "payroll deduct" or "credit card"
Also, I am L-UA. Hope this helps you get to the bottom of the issue. That stinks if you have no payroll deduct option.
Also, I am L-UA. Hope this helps you get to the bottom of the issue. That stinks if you have no payroll deduct option.
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