Exactly. Deferring required maintenance and then returning or selling the aircraft's is simply not done, or if it is, it is negotiated in the contract. It does not save money to defer maintenance.

In the case of the 75's we are selling to FDX, maybe running them out is OK as they have to undergo freighter conversion.

 

Best guess as to why the retirements are being delayed, according to a friend of mine currently at DENTK, is that the 737 training is so woefully behind, it makes no sense to make it worse by retiring more 757s (with those pilots largely displacing to 737; both seats).

Further: since the company is consolidating all 76T and 756 training at DENTK, he said most of the IAH Instructors did not follow the 756 Sims to Denver. In other words, the 756 fleet is now short of instructors.

Council 12 mail tonight said the company is working on the 737 training plan for Summer 2015. It said, quote: "The company will need to train 120 pilots a month for summer 2015 737 flying."

It did not say how many months that would be, though. Three months? Continuous until next summer? Nine times 120 - All Pilots at the Company!!

Based on the above, it makes sense to me that they are keeping the current/qualified crews they have on the 757/767 fleets, so they can try and get their heads above water for the 737.

If this is true, it would be a rare case of the company actually doing something that made sense.

Maybe there is hope. Mark your calendars.

 

Right now, the only displacements will be for the BAT, moving 76t FOs to 756 FOs, mainly in EWR. My understanding is there won't be displacements to the 73. But I could be wrong.

 

There is no such thing as displacements TO a specific aircraft. Displacements are FROM an aircraft and base, and the pilots can go to any position their seniority can hold, including the 73.

 

So displacement is the wrong term... I apologize
They are moving (without and option) 100 76t FOs to 756 FOs ... If only a few 76t guys bid it, they will go inverse seniority and force us to move. That's according to the latest BAT bid that closes tomorrow. Which does not include any movement to/with the 737.
(Being forced off one airplane to another is a displacement to me, but in this case there is no choice in where to go .... But per the contract, it is not technically a "displacement")

But as Fly stated, maybe that number is changing due to a/c not being retired and they will not be "BAT"-ing so many 76t FOs

 

Why on earth did the Union agree to this seniority abrogating procedure anyway? Seems to me that if you're on either of these two aircraft, (76T & 756), you get the best of both worlds. Full participation in our regular vacancy bids AND these private BAT ones. Guys on the A320 & the 737 would like a shot at these slots as well but are locked out. Absolute horse-****

 

Um, I think 90 X 120 would be all the pilots at the company.

 

Doh!!

What's an order of magnitude between co-workers?

Good catch.

 

It would appear the the pilots of this disheveled airline would have a modicum of leverage with which to repair some of the gaping holes in their industry leading (cough) contract. One would think that the MEC would already be working on it and that the pilots would be angry enough to insist upon on it.

Nah.....Jay is too busy gunning for a desk in Herndon.

 

I also looked at the BAT as abrogation of seniority. Everyone should have been able to bid those positions.